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But remember. It's not a grudge or anything.

Never mind. I'm not going to bother.

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Canadian duck?

Nope, Canada Goose.

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HarringtonLaw wrote:
1. Yes, potentially. The KJ is ultimately responsible for the music that he plays, whether it's from his own collection or a patron's. A KJ who plays music in that situation should, at a minimum, ask you to sign a document that confirms that you have the original CDs at home, and that those CDs aren't being used elsewhere. As a matter of best practices, the KJ should also keep a list of the tracks he plays in that way, along with your name and telephone number. If the KJ is sued, he would possibly need to have you bring in your original discs to demonstrate 1:1 correspondence. I have already had one KJ who made a claim of that type and was not able to substantiate it because he didn't know how to contact the disc owners.

....So, is anyone keeping a log of singers with their own discs? I'm just curious?

Many of the karaoke hosting software does just that!

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....I think you mentioned yours does but do you keep up with your singer's "Legal Names and Contact Info" in the event you were ever named in a lawsuit? Not saying you would be. Just for the purpose of covering your butt. I agree, the KJ is responsible for the music (KJ or Filler) that he or she plays.

Nope, and i'm not going to.

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Guilty until proven innocent seems to be the game of choice for Sound Choice these days. Now the customers have to prove that they own an original CD before Sound Choice will get off your back for playing a customer's custom made CD. The day I have to sign some sort of legal release to sing one of my favorite songs is the day I stop going to karaoke at the place that asked me to sign one.

So much for Sound Choice trying to help KJs. Good Grief!!!

....Well Bruce...I've never played off of a singer's/patron's burnt disc, flash-drive or hard drive, only original CDG's. However, it looks like, according to Sound Choice, if I choose to play off of any of those, I'm going to have to get all of that info from them, just in case I get called out. Not to mention, it could be an investigator that brings one of the above items at one of my shows. Who knows?

....Come to think of it, I might just go ahead and get a finger-print, head-shot photo, copy of ID Card, driver's license number, passport, blood and urine samples, just to stay ahead of the game. Never know when the rules are gonna change.

....And I thought getting back into the KJ business was gonna easy....

It can be. Just do NOT play Sound Choice. Simple as that. Personally, I think, if word got out, and more people boycotted SC, and they suddenly found themselves NOT making ANY money, and they found that their product was not being used, maybe, JUST MAYBE, they would revise their policies and make them more KJ friendly. I think, as long as they are being hostile to their customers, ( I don't mean as far as customer service, I am talking about this guilty until proven innocent stance they have adopted.), they don't deserve my business, at the very least. Not when there are so many other manus giving permission to shift, and not treating their customers like criminals.

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I am a Sound Choice Customer. I have never felt threatened by Sound Choice. Sound Choice has never been hostile to me. Nor have they been hostile to any of the other legal KJ's I know in my area.

-Chris

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By hostile I mean having to prove yourself to them. You are their CUSTOMER. All you should have to prove is that you had the money to buy their product at the time you bought it. You shouldn't have to prove yourself innocent when you have done nothing wrong.

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There is a rather large difference between being hostile and asking for proof. I don't think anyone considers it hostile at all to ask someone that is using a MP3+G version of Sound Choice tracks prove they have a CD to go with it.

-Chris

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I do, when other manus don't require that proof, just the one major Prima Dona of the bunch does, yeah it's hostile. They don't trust their customers and they prove it with this nonsense.

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And it's totally understandable that they do, since piracy is as big as it is as of now. I don't get the 'hostile' part here. (?)

Look, you have a choice. You can in good faith show them that you have original disks and a 1:1 ratio. You can wait to be sued and prove it in the discovery process. Or you can quit playing them at all. It is your CHOICE, as simple as that. Rambling on about how you like it or not, doesn't change the fact that they are hunting down pirates.

And they're not alone either. Chartbuster and Pop Hits are following up on that. And it will become even more dense when they finalize their agreements with UK manufacturers like Zoom, Sunfly, Mr. Entertainer Hits and others to include them in the audit process (and vice versa).

The point is, they haven't done anything for too long and WERE trusting their customers. The result is that everybody happily copies, shares and even sells copies everywhere left and right.

You really blame them for that?

The only ones that need to prove is those that shifted their tracks or downright stole them. Because the layman cannot decipher between a computer user that just media shifted & one that stole their music.

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To my way of thinking, when you treat your customers like potential criminals that is a hostile act. If you owned a store, and frisked every customer between the cash register and the exit, and then charged them for that frisking, THAT would be a hostile move.

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Huh, I don't see that either.

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