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This guy has got it right, and it's evidenced by the fact that litigation is SC's primary source of income right now. If they suddenly become proactive and efficient at their jobs, then they don't make nearly the amount of money that was stolen, and they still wouldn't have the money required to start actually coming out with music. They'd just go out of business.

They've fallen into that financial purgatory that requires them to stay exactly where they are, suing everybody for stupid reasons, in order to stay afloat.

It's the sad, unfortunate truth.

Roche Coach,

Many say that SC is only in the business of lawsuits.... you may just find with the benefit of hindsight that that statement turns out to be as wrong as several others that have been posted here in the last couple of years

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Athena

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How do you figure that's wrong?? Are they releasing new music?? Nope. Are they suing everyone they can get their hands on? Yup. Statement is true.

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Smoothedge69,
The statement may "appear" to be true at this time ...that was why I made the statement I did. Down thee road you might find yourself having to take back your words. It has happened before with things that "appeared to be true" right here on this forum.

You know that I do my best to look at issues from different perspectives and do not "slam" anyone for opinions they may have. Please do not take this as a attack as that is not what I am intending.

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Athena

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Lee McGuffey

There will be no need to take back any words.
Soundchoice is in the litigation business.
That is a plain fact.
If at some point down the road they get back into the music business, that won't change the fact that their business model up to then had been litigation.

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point of view noted and opinion accepted

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Athena

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Lee McGuffey

Sound Choice doesn't release music, doesn't sell old discs, and only gives out a list of certified Sound Choice dealers, by e-mail requests only, and their download sections redirects to a completely different company. Please tell me how Sound Choice isn't a professional litigation company. And, you might want to elaborate on, "as wrong as several others." That implies that several others have said the same thing, and have been proven wrong, rather than many people saying the same thing, and you simply disagreeing.

When Sound Choice drops the bullcrap lawsuits, and starts actually being a karaoke company, I'll be sure to seek you out, and take back everything I said. Until then, I stand by my point.

Roche Coach,
If you read back trough the piracy forum threads here you will find many statements that have been stated as fact that have later with the help of hindsight been seen to be VERY wrong. I know that you are new and may not be aware of the many issues discussed here and on other forums before you became a member .

Sound Choice does not offer Downloads, Has liquidated all the stock of CDG's (and will give you a list of dealers via email) for the remaining stock and has chosen to concentrate on marketing the GEM series at this time. If you choose not to use them that is your option...

As I have stated MANY times each host must decide what level of liability to expose themselves to AND pay the price for the decisions they make. I took it upon myself to try and educate as many Hosts/Venues/Singers as I can so they can make educated decisions.

It is no skin off my nose....make your choice and pay your price...Just don't come B**chin' later when you have to pay the piper for your choices

Best of luck to you

Athena

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Lee McGuffey

I lurked for about a week before joining this forum, and I've kept doing it ever since. I'm aware that what we're discussion now has been discussed before, but that doesn't mean my point is less valid.

"This has been discussed before, therefore I win," is not a valid argument, believe it or not.



So, a karaoke company doesn't produce or sell karaoke products. In fact, they don't sell anything. You're kind of proving my point, here. They're not a karaoke company until they start selling karaoke products.

OK you are fully entitled to your opinion


Athena

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Lee McGuffey

Athena, first, just call me Bobby. I don't need to hide my first name. Second, I didn't slam SC in my statement. Are they producing new music?? Nope. Are they suing everyone they can get their hands on?? Yup. Have they tried to act as an investigative agent for other companies, so those companies could start suing people?? Yup. My statement was completely true, for this point in time. I never said that it will stay that way forever, though I don't believe they ever will get back to making music. I further believe that they WILL become irrelevant in decades to come, BECAUSE they aren't making new music. CB had sued people, too, but they have continued to make and release new music, and new innovations for delivering that music. THAT is a karaoke company. The GEM series is just a repackaging of old music. Pretty much makes it no better than SGB, except for sound quality. The big difference is that SGB sells over 1000 songs in there 68 disc set for about $70. For 6000 songs that would be $420. Sound Choice sells 6000 OLD songs for $4500. I can see them being more expensive, because their quality is much better, but not THAT much more.

On a side note, I do not see why anyone would want to get certified with a company that no long makes music, and may never make music again. That is one of the other reasons why I won't certify with them. What's the point? They better watch themselves, as Sunfly and SBI are producing VERY good stuff, of late. They are also producing stuff that SC never has. I downloaded a little handful of their tracks this weekend, from Tricerasoft. They included a couple from Whitesnake, Catch the Rainbow and Stargazer from Rainbow, Victim of Changes and The Ripper from Judas Priest, Rock 'N Roll Train, and War Machine from AC/DC, and Burn from Deep Purple. ALL of them were as good as what SC used to produce, if not better. I got The Rain Song from Led-Zeppelin, too. That one was REALLY good. Sound Choice better get back in the game, BEFORE they get replaced. Still not slamming SC, just telling you the facts.

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Thank You Bobby I always try to use the forum names as to not upset people

I did not intend to insinuate you did slam SC just reacting to other posts I guess ....sorry

I myself try to purchase from manufacturer's here in the USA......I do have a few older Sunfly discs and did try some Zoom disc right before the import law changes. The products are of good quality however I myselfam uncomfortable with importing discs that do not have US licencing (sometimes I wish I had NOT researched this in depth). For those who choose to use them it falls into the "what level of liability?" area IMHO

I WILL NOTuse downloads in my shows unless a new license(and laws to back it) is in place here in the USA...sigh I do long for some overseas customs at times however Thank goodness for All-Star

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Athena

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Lee McGuffey

The day the United States government starts going after Karaoke hosts for buying downloads from overseas is the day we have some SERIOUS problems in this country. I think they have MUCH bigger fish to fry. Karaoke is the absolute least of their problems. Not to mention that the tax payers would probably go ape shizz if they found out the government started suing KJs for downloading overseas songs.

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A few years ago they were in the karaoke music production business.

The last few years they have been in the business of intimidating money out of KJ, though no no proof at all has been found in a court that they deserve a dime.

Down the road anything might happen, but that won't negate the truth of what SC is doing currently- making RC's statement correct.

As for whether they are a karaoke music production company- the answer is NO, at least under the SC label. Except for one extremely limited release disc, around 3 years ago, they haven't produced since 2007.

They are not even the most minor player in the business of karaoke music production. When it comes to producing product, they simply no longer count.

That's not an opinion. They either produce new karaoke tracks, or they don't. They don't- period.

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opinion noted JoeC

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Athena

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