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Unless you visit one of these forums (a very small percentage of KJs do), or there are law suits filed in your immediate area (the odds of that are slim at this point) then you're a KJ who has no idea about these legal issues. When I talk to local KJs about this some of them think I'm making it up at first.

I can say one thing for certain. Virtually all of them will dump their SC songs at the first sign of a law suit in the area. I think this is going be the wide spread attitude. Nobody likes being forced to prove that they're innocent when they know they have done nothing wrong.

I think we would have the same situation in my area. I told my friend about what was going on, and he thought I was being paranoid.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

IIRC, they send in letters and literature first to give people a chance to get things straight. However, if you go into a business then it is YOUR responsibility to find out what's legal or not.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

There. I fixed it for you. Nobody would dump songs they bought and paid for. Nobody.

Bazza, you're wrong. There are a few paranoid people we know that publicly stated they won't use their legally purchased discs which is the same as dumping to me.

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I have. I only use my Sound Choice when I go hang out now. I won't use those discs for shows. Don't assume that anyone who dumps SC is dumping stolen music.

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Wanna bet?

Well then, in my humble opinion that's just stupid. If I have bought and paid for a song, from ANY manufacturer, I am going to use it without fear.

What exactly are these honest, disc-bearing "dumpers" afraid of? The SC policy is crystal clear. IF (and that's a big IF) you are sued, show us proof (discs/receipts) and be on your way. No harm no foul.

Unless of course....they have something to hide. Sorry, but it makes zero sense.

You're entitled to your opinion. I happen to think that bowing down to Sound Choice like they are some sort of government entity is stupid, but hey -- that's just me.

Nothing to hide here. And I don't appreciate the insinuation. You should know better by now.

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Birdofsong

And I happen to think that running from them like they are Nazi's when you are 100% legal is just as stupid. But hey, that's just me.



I said nothing about you. Why so defensive?

It's called, we paid for our discs, and do not want a karaoke peddler watching over us to make sure we are doing what THEY want us to do. I would rather not use their material and not give them anything to see, along with not giving them one more dime of my money. There is no other product that I have EVER bought that the vendor of that product wanted to audit me, or come by to make sure i was using it in the proper way. I will NOT allow Sound Choice to do that to me. They want to come to my shows, fine. They won't see their product there.

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Well, then you and I are different animals.

I paid for lasers & lighting from American DJ & Chauvet. I would be Ecstatic if they showed up at my show!
I paid for speakers and amps from Yamaha. I would be Ecstatic if they showed up at my show!
I paid for wireless Shure mics. I would be Ecstatic if they showed up at my show!
I paid for a Driverack from DBX. I would be Ecstatic if they showed up at my show!
I paid for the SC GEM license. I would be Ecstatic if they showed up at my show!

I will show them ALL my gear proudly and talk shop about their stuff! I bought it! I like it!

Bait.



More bait.

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Birdofsong

Good for you. I HATE people watching me. I always have. I have always hated the feeling of having a boss looking over my shoulder.

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"Are you done?" - Bird of Song



Then you sir are in the wrong profession as a performer.

Did you just call me a thief? I already stated that I pulled all the SC songs from my library.

I've been in this business for twenty years and I doubt that there are many here who have spent more money on karaoke discs. A good portion of that has gone to SC discs. So now my reward for being such a good customer is to be railroaded into submitting to their audit. Why should their losses become my problem?

Bazza, not everyone is as quick as you to bend over and take whatever some company thinks they have a right to force on you. Many of us have and will dump our LEGALLY OBTAINED SC songs before we'll succumb to these unscrupulous tactics.

Why would you dump thousands of dollars of music you PAID for on the off-chance you might be asked to show them to the manufacture? What "railroad" to an audit? How are you being railroaded today?



Nothing has been forced on me. What exactly has been forced on you thus far?



Then you sir are being foolish in my opinion. If you bought and paid for these songs and still posses the discs, why on earth would you stop using them?

I think this is ultimately what the whole thing comes down to. Why SHOULD we have to deal with THEIR losses? We bought our discs, and didn't contribute to their problems. Even those that have shifted SC music haven't contributed to their losses, as they still have the original discs.

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Some Pawn Shops buy stolen goods. Most do not.

Do you think the legit Pawn Shops get all snippy when the cops come around asking about their items for sale? Why should THEY have to deal with someone else losses?

Do you think the legit Pawn Shops start dumping legal items out of protest to the cops for coming around?

That is a totally irrelevant situation. Police are GOVERNMENT officials. Sound Choice is a VENDOR. That is all they are. They peddle karaoke discs. It is the Government's JOB to make sure people are following the law. It is not a vendor's job to do that. Levi's doesn't come to people's houses to make sure people are wearing pants that fit. Ford doesn't come out to see if you stole your car. Sony doesn't make you get an audit on all your CDs to play them in a club, neither does the RIAA.

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