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Karaoke Lurker
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:27 am |
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Follow the link.......... http://salem.craigslist.org/bfd/3004160096.htmlIf the link doesn't work go to Salem, Oregon Craigslist and put karaoke in the "For Sale" search box. Look for "professional karaoke tracks many different genre" Or, go to "KJ Bill.com" Hmmmm..........
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hiteck
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:32 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:39 am Posts: 884 Location: Tx Been Liked: 17 times
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Willametteduck wrote: Follow the link.......... http://salem.craigslist.org/bfd/3004160096.htmlIf the link doesn't work go to Salem, Oregon Craigslist and put karaoke in the "For Sale" search box. Look for "professional karaoke tracks many different genre" Or, go to "KJ Bill.com" Hmmmm.......... I'd be willing to bet not legal at all.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:35 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 6086 Images: 1 Location: Redmond, WA Been Liked: 1665 times
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I have reported KJ Bill to SC, CB, PHM several times. Always the same response - He is on our radar, we are dealing with him, we aren't at liberty to discuss further.
I have actually reported him to the FBI and local authorities as well.
I have even had email and phone conversations with him. He once sent me a version of Red Solo Cup with the original CDG graphics stripped off and replaced with his own.
He is either untouchable, very lucky, or, the Manufacturer's aren't actually going after him.
I figure I will wait until the end of the year and the replicate his business model since it seems to be a profitable enterprise and nothing is happening to him.
-Chris
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ripman8
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:55 am |
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Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:34 pm Posts: 3616 Location: Toronto Canada Been Liked: 146 times
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Leave the poor guy alone, he's not hurting anyone! As long as he doesn't have a show.
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mightywiz
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:17 am |
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Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:35 pm Posts: 1351 Images: 1 Location: Idaho Been Liked: 180 times
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it's only illegal when you get caught... and it sound like he won't be in business must longer.
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Karaoke Lurker
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:21 am |
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ripman8 wrote: Leave the poor guy alone, he's not hurting anyone! As long as he doesn't have a show. If he's marketing hard drives, he's hurting all legal KJ's.
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hiteck
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:22 am |
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ripman8 wrote: Leave the poor guy alone, he's not hurting anyone! As long as he doesn't have a show.
_________________ My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.
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MadMusicOne
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:45 am |
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Willametteduck wrote: ripman8 wrote: Leave the poor guy alone, he's not hurting anyone! As long as he doesn't have a show. If he's marketing hard drives, he's hurting all legal KJ's. ...Nah, he's just creating future customers for the Karaoke Manufacturers.
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Kuelman1
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:48 am |
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Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:01 am Posts: 780 Images: 0 Location: Champaign IL Been Liked: 180 times
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This guys ads have been all over craigslist for a couple of years at least. Every time I search my local area at least 1 of his adds comes up. I just keep flagging them.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:25 pm |
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chrisavis wrote: I have reported KJ Bill to SC, CB, PHM several times. Always the same response - He is on our radar, we are dealing with him, we aren't at liberty to discuss further.
I have actually reported him to the FBI and local authorities as well.
I have even had email and phone conversations with him. He once sent me a version of Red Solo Cup with the original CDG graphics stripped off and replaced with his own.
He is either untouchable, very lucky, or, the Manufacturer's aren't actually going after him.
I figure I will wait until the end of the year and the replicate his business model since it seems to be a profitable enterprise and nothing is happening to him.
-Chris The FBI, REALLY??? What a rat!! Wow, where I come from, you would probably turn up missing. . (That was said in jest, so let's not get any panties in an uproar, please). I just find it funny. What exactly do you think the FBI is going to do to him?? Do you REALLY want tax payer money spent on him?? One person on here thinks Homeland Security may start going after KJs who use UK downloads, and now we have you who thinks the FBI should go after a Karaoke pirate. Do you people REALLY think Karaoke is that important, in the grand scheme of things, that the Federal Government should or WOULD get involved?? REALLY??
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Cueball
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:43 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2001 6:55 pm Posts: 4433 Location: New York City Been Liked: 757 times
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chrisavis wrote: I have actually reported him to the FBI and local authorities as well.
And I'll bet the first thing they asked you was if you were you were a victim of his (alleged) crime. Since you have not had any financial losses as a result of this, I'm sure that that's where the conversation ended, and you were told that there's nothing they can do to help you.
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earthling12357
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:21 pm |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: Do you people REALLY think Karaoke is that important, in the grand scheme of things, that the Federal Government should or WOULD get involved?? REALLY?? Yes. It would be far more appropriate for our government to police these things (that they are empowered to police) than for a vender to empower themselves as the karaoke police.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:44 pm |
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cueball wrote: chrisavis wrote: I have actually reported him to the FBI and local authorities as well.
And I'll bet the first thing they asked you was if you were you were a victim of his (alleged) crime. Since you have not had any financial losses as a result of this, I'm sure that that's where the conversation ended, and you were told that there's nothing they can do to help you. They actually asked me that and much more. And by the way, I explained that he impacted me financially as well as all of you and the manufacturers. I don't have a lot of faith they will do anything but I reported it just the same. -Chris
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twansenne
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:48 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:03 pm Posts: 1921 Images: 1 Location: N. Central Iowa Been Liked: 53 times
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Too bad we don't know a good hacker and crack his FTP server. Or perhaps a DOS attack?
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Karaoke Lurker
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:32 pm |
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Do you people REALLY think Karaoke is that important, in the grand scheme of things, that the Federal Government should or WOULD get involved?? REALLY?? - Smoothedge69
The squeaky wheel gets the grease, my friend.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:02 pm |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: Do you people REALLY think Karaoke is that important, in the grand scheme of things, that the Federal Government should or WOULD get involved?? REALLY?? Ask the folks who's only source of income is karaoke. -Chris
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timberlea
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:19 pm |
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Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:41 pm Posts: 4094 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada Been Liked: 309 times
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The thing is no one here knows what the FBI is doing or not doing. They could be doing nothing due to other priorities. They could be establishing the amount of damages that is occurring. They could be doing something national and do a national sweep at some point. They may or may not be cooperating with manufacturers. As with the Dodger player, they maybe doing a joint operation with the IRS. One thing I do know is they will not announce or comment on anything until it happens.
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Brian A
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:42 pm |
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FBI will not get involved? Think again. This is old news, happened five years ago. KJ old-timers know these two cases very well. Stephen “Sonny" Freeman, Mound, MN http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercr ... anPlea.pdfThe last paragraph states: “This case is part of the U.S. Department of Justice’s initiative to combat online auction piracy. The case was investigated by the Minnesota Cyber Crimes Task Force, which includes the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the United States Secret Service; and the United States Postal Inspection Service. Tracy Ann Brock, ironically, she’s from BURNSVILLE, MN http://www.startribune.com/local/11556316.html“FBI agents raided Brock's home and seized equipment used in the pirating operation”.
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jdmeister
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:25 am |
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Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2002 4:12 pm Posts: 7704 Songs: 1 Location: Hollyweird, Ca. Been Liked: 1089 times
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Will they send him to do his time at Sing Sing?
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