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also dont forget, all of this hub bub is about one manufacturer.......one.
not the industry, not a majority of the industry......one company.

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I totally understand what you are talking about and you are correct, many KJ's and bars don't care. Unfortunately, not caring has contributed to where karaoke is now.

-Chris

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Let's not forget the manu's share of the blame here. I'd like to add that it wasn't originally the KJ's, bars, and customers that didn't care. At least one manu didn't care and did nothing about it for YEARS, despite knowing full well what was going on.

They have been trying to do something against piracy since the late 90's. SPIN, KAPA, there was another one all throughout. Mediacloq. If people weren't stealing, NONE of this would have come into play.

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Actually the thing most people do not realize is that part of a sellers settlement and/or conviction is to hand over ALL the records of the people they sold to. So the answer is Yes, we believe they have already compiled a lot of information to do just that. Personally believe it its possible that nothing would come of it, and believe us, we would rather simply say YES in order to help our cause of fighting piracy yet are strong believers in being truly objective and fair no matter what the cost!

MADPROAUDIO
EX MILITARY - FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED

I actually meant to add a line about just that piece. What Lonnie says is true, but the manufacturers obviously didn't do enough about it early enough. Now, no one is doing anything about it at all except suing people. There still isn't any DRM being used. I don't count Chartuster simply because everything they did with the KJMP drives was/is already in the wild. As far as I can tell, there are no manufacturers that we can buy from that implement any kind DRM or copy protection. As long as that is the standard, the theft and piracy will continue.

-Chris

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Madproaudio, you may or may not be subject of a lawsuit, however, should the FBI or other Law Enforcement, get involved, you may be subject to being charged with possession of stolen goods. Even though you paid for the harddrive which may not be stolen, the music on them is stolen. Just a word to the wise and if you wish, talk to yuor attorney about it.

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Where the heck is this coming from?
MADPROAUDIO has all of 10 posts, none of which mention he's in possession of anything other than legally obtained music.

He's off in his own world, again. He's one of those who assumes that everyone is a pirate.

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I never said Madaudiopro was a pirate. He asked if a home user could be subject to a lawsuit. I said it is possible. I further added (just to be clear here) that there is BOTH Civil and Criminal aspects to these harddrives. The manu can sue for Copyright/Trademark infringements and the government can ciminally charge the makers and receivers of these harddrives for possession and distribution.

And yes anyone producing, distributing, and or possessing these harddrives are pirates.

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The way you wrote it, it looks like you were saying he was in possesion of such a drive.

I want to thank those of you that automatically came to my defense! And now I will come to the other guys defense.

At first glance, I clearly thought he was implying that I was possibly under some lawsuit. I then sent him a PM as I did not wish to cause problems on the forum asking if his post implied anything negative.
Of couse in a very nice manner

I read the post at least 4 times after that and began to think that he possibly just did not articulate it properly. We are actually being crushed by unfair competition and hurt on a very deep level because my families entire lifetsavings has been invested into this.

My original posting was to keep an objective view regarding possible lawsuits against home users.
I still believe that a person who sues another for selling drives obtains customer information in a future
attempt to go after those people too. And in order to in a round about way show that we do not believe in
scare tactics, I also said that I did not believe home users had anything to worry about anyways. And that was at the risk of knowing it might make home users feel it is ok to buy pirated drive. My entire xmas was ruined due to ongoing piracy, so please know whomever reads this that no matter how you plan to use it. Buying from those unscrupulous sellers literally are supplying 1 more nail to the coffin of legit sellers and kj's. Good night everyone, and God Bless.

EX-MILITARY AND PROUD OF IT.

"Treat people with respect and you will always gain more ground on ANY issue in life."