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You are not going to find many KJ's who own a decent sized library buy into the Cloud. Not if they charge a fee to use it. As noted, Amazon and many others, offer Cloud services to it's customers for free. Essentially this: "buy from us and the storage is free". You can see how successful Amazon is with this.

If everyone banded together and refused to pay a monthly fee for something that should be free, then maybe we might be sending a message to the powers that be. But of course, no one will ever agree.

I for one will not use the Cloud. I have enough music to successfully run shows for years to come and if I need new music, there are other alternatives to purchasing it.

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I'm just glad we have our discs and not have to worry about all this silliness.

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The fee is for receiving the music NOT the storage of it. It's a delivery system for acquiring music (new/old) with the option to store included from what I am gathering. So not seeing the free thing as being an option since it's similar to a streaming service where you can access the music or download to your computer, but need the subscription to play it.

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I see Alan's point. Instead of offering 60,000 for $99 a month, make it a download system like Amazon. You can store the music for free in the Cloud, meaning you don't need a HDD to store the music. You BUY what you need and store it for free. I like that idea. In buying the music you wouldn't have to worry about if it will be there the next time you want to access it. You would still have variation between KJs, the mfrs would still make money, and the storage would be free. It would be a win - win for everyone.

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I have heard all points of view from you guys. I have made my decision that I will not go with Karaoke Cloud Pro. I am not a fan of it. There are the pirates and there are the KJ's who spent thousands of dollars on music including myself. I think the opposite of everyone. I think it is ridiculous to offer such a cheap service to anyone and everyone out there including bars to be able to pay $199 a month for a crap ton of music that has taken the professional dj/kj a long time to acquire. Why not pay the bartender to run karaoke at the bar for $6 dollars and hour and get rid of the KJ all together. You know how hard the market is going to get for KJ's when it already is HARD! Piracy is one thing, but investing and partaking a business is going to be a hard realistic future if the karaoke cloud continues. I also believe Sound Choice is going to make or break this depending on if they join in. The best of the best doesn't join in? Good luck.

Sound Choice lost best of the best status when they stopped producing. It will take a Hell of a lot for them to get to that status, and a lot of catching up to other companies.

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Forgive me but I havent read any of your posts regarding this but I am soo not interested in this cloud thing. I feel like I have too much invested in my music to be paying for it all over again using this cloud thing. Also, did they actually tell us what brands of music they will be using in this? I mean how do we know we would get "quality" music & not midi crap? I assume Chartbuster will be available but as for new music what will they be offering? Is Sound Choice on board? I didnt listen to the whole shpeel but my husband listen to most of it & agrees with me. I dunno it just hurts my heart to think all of the years of paying specific,close attention to the quality of the music I bought was/will be for nothing.

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Supposedly Sound Choice, Chartbuster (Digitrax), Sunfly, are for sures from what i've been gathering. But I do believe there were 2 or 3 other major players (good quality) that were interested as well. I don't think that's going to be an issue.

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We have a fundamental misunderstanding occurring here. People are comparing Apple and Oranges because they do not understand the technology, which creates confusion & fear.


Half the people in this thread are talking about free "Cloud Storage Service". (Amazon, iCloud, Dropbox, etc)

The other half are talking about a "Cloud Delivery Service". (Digitrax, PCDJ Karaoke, etc)

They both use the word "Cloud", but have nothing to do with each other. This is the problem with buzzwords and the ONLY reason someone would demand it be free.



I believe this painful truth is the root of 90% of the vitriol. Sadly, your discs are already worth a fraction of what you paid for them. And in 10 years or less they will be worth nothing. I know a guy that has the entire Star Trek series on VHS tape. Hundreds of tapes. He paid a LOT of money for them back in the day. You know what they are worth today thanks to "cloud technology" (Amazon Prime, Netflix, Etc)?

-ZERO-

In all fairness though, Amazon has one of the largest and highly developed cloud infrstructures of any company n the planet. DigiTrax does not have those kind of resources.

Of course, they could always leverage Windows Azure or Amazon AWS/EC3 to accomplish this and get the scale they need. I guess it is time to research what DigiTrax is using.

-Chris

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So one who is "In the Cloud" walks into a bar and asks the owner if he would like to start Karaoke...and the bar owner says Yea sure, how many discs do you own....(kj) uh none I'm in the cloud....and the bar owner says what are you nuts you wanna get me sued because you don't have any original discs!!!!! GET OUTTA HERE.


Just how are these investigators gonna know who is in the cloud and who isn't?
Are all the "Cloud" songs gonna be reconfigured to show that they are "Cloud Music" when they are shown on the monitor?

What happens when you mix your "Cloud Music" with discs or stuff on your HD when the "Cloud" doesn't have a song you do?

I think that there is so much to work out that it will be at least a couple of years before we even have to start thinking about it. Right now there are 4-5 companies ready to jump but I'll bet that when you really get them in a room and start talking about how it's gonna be done that there will be big differences between them on just how they want "Their" stuff done!

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I don't think it is a misunderstanding, Bazza, as much as people just saying they would find one type of cloud utilization more useful than another--in other words some would rather have a download/store in the cloud service than a cloud delivered subscription service.

I believe something that is lost in the shuffle here is that it seems karaoke tracks are in a bracket all their own when it comes to their creation and implementation. How that would translate into a fair, yet profitable, usage in the "Cloud" still needs some shaking out, I am sure.

It does appear that, IMO, they are taking on the same mentality as so many that participate in this industry on a user end, and on the production end for so many years: let's do whatever we can get away with to make some money! It kind of goes back to the issue of "policing". If there is an industry of this magnitude that lacks in that in the US, I would like to know what that is!

Case and point (and I have mentioned it in a couple of other threads, with NO ONE replying): If a release like SC8125 can exist, and then be pulled because of licensing issues, how can many of these same tracks show up in the GEM Series? I await an explanation of that.......

Funny, but probably not very realistic. I have never been asked this question. In my experience bar owners could care less how many discs you have. I have only been asked a few times how many songs I have and I always reply "I have tons of music, all the genres and the songs people want to sing" which they are happy with.



I would think they would want to have a different splash screen. It would only make good marketing sense on their part.



What happens now when you mix a CD with a song on your PC?



I think it will move much faster than that...



Well many years did pass in between. Its entirely possible that new agreements were reached.

Plus no one will have to start over buying their library again - what you have, you continue to use. This is just a new way to acquire new music & have access to everything you probably never had before.

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It would be interesting to know that, if anyone were to ask, would you get a response, and, if so, would it be truthful? And is it even possible to get permission to "re-release" something not authorized to begin with?!?!?

Plus UK licesning is different & the GEM has UK lisencing MCPS.

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I don't know, I am just saying that minds & opinions change.

Remember, Don Henley also said The Eagles would never get back together ("When HELL freezes over")!

We all know how that turned out.

Dang, those policy changes. Can we sue the Eagles for reforming after they said they wouldn't?

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I have a screen shot of him saying it from over a decade ago for your case!