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NoShameKaraoke
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:11 pm |
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Springing from a side-conversation in another thread. Some people find some types of music offensive. Some people like to have control of the atmosphere at their shows to counteract the possibility of causing offense.
Aside from playing music brought to you of dubious origins/pirated material or what have you, what kind of things won't you play? Does it vary from show to show?
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kjathena
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:15 pm |
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for us it does vary form venue to venue....we have a family show where only "clean" songs are allowed....we have venues where cursing is part of the norm and everything in between.
The only thing we choose not to purchase for play is Ubran/Rap....we will however play OM discs in venues that do not limit if someone brings that style of music in.
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mrmarog
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:23 pm |
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No Rap, no fowl language, no songs over 5 minutes. Suggestive songs are OK.
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audiochris
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:20 pm |
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I'll pretty much play anything unless the venue or people writing the checks tell me not to. I'm not the morality police so I don't attempt to censor people's song choices. When booking a show, I start this conversation right away so there is no confusion down the road.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:35 pm |
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mrmarog wrote: No Rap, no fowl language, no songs over 5 minutes. Suggestive songs are OK. No Rap?? Why not? Baby Got Back is STILL one of the more popular songs. I won't limit anyone to times, or what kind of music, or what songs they can sing. They are customers. They are to be pleased....period. If I have it, they can sing it. If I don't I will try to get it. I will ONLY cursing if the owner doesn't want it. I don't expect to be doing kids' shows, so I see no reason to limit anything else.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:24 am |
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I play any song requested that I have. Though I will attempt to steer people away from certain songs. ("Crazy" - Patsy Cline, "War Pigs" - Black Sabbath, "Alone" - Heart are a few examples.) I will also consult with singers when I see "mood-busters" coming up. I don't limit the length of a song except when the rotation is packed.
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c. staley
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:05 am |
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I allow only those songs that are appropriate for the venue and the current audience.
I don't bend at all on this because it's my job to make sure that EVERYONE has an enjoyable time... not just the singer.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:25 am |
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It's a shame that SOME people pick songs to offend others instead of to impress others. I'm sure that there are some places where these types of songs are the norm but those are the places that I would most likely try to avoid. Certain people just seem to enjoy jamming their rudeness down other people's ears. They take every opportunity to make others feel uncomfortable. IMHO; it's a sign of a very unhappy individual.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:34 am |
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chrisavis wrote: I play any song requested that I have. Though I will attempt to steer people away from certain songs. ("Crazy" - Patsy Cline, "War Pigs" - Black Sabbath, "Alone" - Heart are a few examples.) I will also consult with singers when I see "mood-busters" coming up. I don't limit the length of a song except when the rotation is packed.
-Chris Explain yourself. What is wrong with "Crazy"' Alone" and War Pigs"?? If you are going to say that War Pigs is a mood breaker, then YOU are in the wrong venue. Where I come from people LOVE to hear War Pigs. That songs gets some of the best cheers. And if I hear a girl singing Alone, and she is good at it, it's like the Angels have come down from Heaven. Crazy can go away. Such a BORING song. .
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Brian A
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:34 am |
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Depending on the venue & the patrons. Family restaurant/club especially when kids are present – I try not to play songs that are offensive in nature.
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timberlea
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:39 am |
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Bruce all you have to do is sing a Gospel song to counter the vulgar ones.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:35 pm |
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timberlea wrote: Bruce all you have to do is sing a Gospel song to counter the vulgar ones. I go to karaoke to sing. I don't go because there is an open microphone to curse over....and that seems to be the main reason that some people go to karaoke. That want to turn a G-rated past time into an X-rated one. There is a reason that bars and restaurants don't have the Playboy Channel playing on their TVs.
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NoShameKaraoke
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:16 pm |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: timberlea wrote: Bruce all you have to do is sing a Gospel song to counter the vulgar ones. I go to karaoke to sing. I don't go because there is an open microphone to curse over....and that seems to be the main reason that some people go to karaoke. That want to turn a G-rated past time into an X-rated one. There is a reason that bars and restaurants don't have the Playboy Channel playing on their TVs. Well, an R-rated pasttime. I have only seen X-rated karaoke once myself, at a strip club. It was... not a great experience, karaoke or... er, otherwise.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:32 pm |
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Our club doesn't allow anything with language in it. Which eliminate MOST rap and some of the harder core rock. So my books do not list any of these songs.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:13 pm |
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KaraokeJerry wrote: After last night's show, "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" will no longer be sung as a group song. Sounds like you were treated to someone's version of the Dan Band version of that song, right? The F Bomb got dropped a lot, didn't it? Like I said before; some people just seem to get off on cursing on a microphone and showing just how immature and disrespectful they can be to everyone else in the venue. I guess it has replaced being able to smoke inside of a bar. If they can't pollute your lungs; they will pollute your ears.Their parents must be so proud.
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c. staley
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:38 pm |
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Red Peters song; "I Can't Say These Things" contains everything you can't sing at most shows.... on purpose... and that's the point of the song. The "f-bomb" is one of the "milder" words in the song....
It's funny only when the right audience (non-prude adults with VERY thick skin) is present....
It's all in the atmosphere and timing.
Lonnie works in a casino.... it has to stay clean because of the diverse clientele walking in, around and out...
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birdofsong
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:16 pm |
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I think you should allow what works for your club, but I have to say that I have a problem with characterizing ALL people that choose songs that have profanity as "immature" or saying their only motivation is to offend people. I think I'm more offended by that characterization than I am by profanity.
Chip and I occasionally sing The Spelling Song together, by Red Peters. It's hysterical and a lot of fun to do. I wouldn't do it at a church function, but it's fantastic at the bar. The first time I heard "Ode to My Car," I almost peed my pants. I do, however, dislike the "remake" of Total Eclipse. I think profanity that fits into a humorous context can be very fun. I think swearing for the sake of swearing is unnecessary. But I wouldn't characterize you as an immature jerk if you wanted to do it.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:34 pm |
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To each his own. There is a big difference between funny vulgar and dirty vulgar. The same people that will laugh their asses off at "Piece of (@$%!) Car" will be offended by "Closer" or "We Want Some (@$%!)" or "Me So Horny" or "Short Dick Man". I've seen a KJ get banned from working a particular bar in Florida for allowing someone to sing "Short Dick Man". At least a dozen people walked out before the song was over. The girl singing it and her husband were also told to not come back to the venue. This particular venue was a hotel outdoor Tiki Bar. Children were swimming in the pool less than 20 feet away and senior citizens were trying to enjoy their dinners.
YES!!!! I think it was VERY IMMATURE; JUVENILE EVEN, for someone to choose that song at that particular location. People should know the difference between class and classless.
If you think that is the behavior of a mature adult; then I'm sorry but it's too late to help you.
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birdofsong
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:38 pm |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: To each his own. There is a big difference between funny vulgar and dirty vulgar. The same people that will laugh their asses off at "Piece of <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> Car" will be offended by "Closer" or "We Want Some <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span>" or "Me So Horny" or "Short Dick Man". I've seen a KJ get banned from working a particular bar in Florida for allowing someone to sing "Short Dick Man". At least a dozen people walked out before the song was over. The girl singing it and her husband were also told to not come back to the venue. This particular venue was a hotel outdoor Tiki Bar. Children were swimming in the pool less than 20 feet away and senior citizens were trying to enjoy their dinners.
YES!!!! I think it was VERY IMMATURE; JUVENILE EVEN, for someone to choose that song at that particular location. People should know the difference between class and classless.
If you think that is the behavior of a mature adult; then I'm sorry but it's too late to help you. Horns in, Bruce. Geez. If I was doing a show at a hotel with children, it wouldn't be an issue, because I wouldn't allow it to be played. But honestly, I don't give a rat's patootie in an adult bar if someone wants to sing it, and I wouldn't condemn them for it. I guess I'm just not as judgmental that way. Like you said, to each their own.
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