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Yes Troy, the 203 players are very reliable, and play dvds too. Their only drawback is compared to other players of the past, they are slow loading.

I think Lonnie was refeering to a cavs jb-99 (old) or jb-199 player that he has stated he's only seen a few times, and i'd be surprised IF HE EVER has witnessed a LEGALLY loaded player (by owner) ripped in at a hig bit rate and the lyrics correctly synced to the music.

Thing Is, a cavs 199 IS a computer. I've seen MANY computerized-kj with lots of problems and lots of crashes, bad files, off-sweeps, etc...and aren't 1/2 as reliable or stable as a 199 machine. Btw, i used to use one when i first started, but have been using an HP desktop for eons now.

It's just SAD when, like a BOSE system, someone perpetuates the wrong idea to others when THEIR EXPERIENCE is limited to a bad one or incorrectly set-up system that doesn't show the products true capabilities or potential.

I didn't like the sound of jBL speakers when i first heard them. I came back to the store after having bought the MACKIES instead, and was told that the jbls were set up incorrectly. They sounded almost as good as the mackies, and were $400 less for a pair. My 2nd set were jbls.

Point being...i've seen the cavs 199 computer-jukeboxes used in vegas as recently as last year, and YES, those ones at Imperial Palace DO have SYNC problems with their RAP selections, but the kj there says it's THE SAME UNIT they've used for the last 10 years, and only have replaced the harddrive ONCE. I know of a few kjs in Georgia that use 199's as well for 8-10 years and STILL load their discs personally and run the machines with ZERO problems. It IS a workhorse and a reliable machine when set up correctly.

You'd NEVER hear that kind of RELIABILITY from a LAPTOP-BASED KJ running a show 7 days a week for 10 years.

Sorry. rant over. -john

Yes it is true i've only seen a few units in action around here, seriously doubt any of them had any discs. 1 of them stupidly confirmed it - he was actually a dealer and would load every disc (any & every manu) he got in to sell to the cavs and reshrink wrap the disc & sell as new, he boasted over 100K songs in 2003 - though I don't even think there were that many out at the time. He at one time had 4 systems running, he is no longer in business - selling or kj'ing. But I have never seen 1 that would swipe correctly. I know they were the jukebox type models, don't know if they were the 99 or 199. Last one I saw in use anywhere around here was probably 08 or so.

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Thanks for your honesty Lon.

good that guy you were referring to is out of business. Doing the exact wrong thing.

It could've been the jb-99 older model that had a 3 tray drawer for cdgs that was slow loading and crapped out frequently. It was also DOS based and super slow. Lagging lyrics were the main problem and overheating because of a lack of a fan over the harddrive.

The newer ones, the jb-199 are windows-based and are 10 times better than the old ones. When SC started suing kjs a few years back, i went with Knightshows' (Matt RIP) recommendation of using a desktop platform and it's worked awesome too.

To say i like clicking a mouse over punching in numbers would be untrue...i could push the numbers without looking and even program the next 10 singers in less than 30 seconds, at the time.

The 203G in USB mode is not slow at all. It is actually quite fast. Punch in the number, press play - playing is instantaneous. I play from a drive that is 80 gigs, too.

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