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JoeChartreuse
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 Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:21 pm |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: BruceFan4Life wrote: I always get a big kick out of it when Joe C makes these posts about his venues.
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Please keep in mind that I don't work in noisy kiddie bars, but rather specialize in high end adult - and quieter- restaurant bars. Because of this I get effusive compliments on my sound versus PC MPG KJs in other venues.
I couldn't disgaree more. Two of his gigs are as close to Railroad tracks as you can get and they are two little dives that in no way would be considered high end; unless you were comapring them to a McDonalds. Ah, my favorite forum troll: I do work ONE venue near a railroad track. It is a nice restaurant that boasts chefs trained at the Culinary Institute Of America, is focused on an older, more layed back clientele, the average price of a cocktail at that their smaller lounge is $6.50 to $8.00 per drink, and has been written up favorably many times in it's over 50 year existance, and it is called The Wagon Wheel Restaurant. It is also the only venue that still allows me to advertise since SC started crap. If there is another venue near near those or other tracks of ANY sort, feel free to name it, or feel free to be more truthful in the future. Now, this isn't to say that I haven't played dive bars or loud clubs. I have played biker bars, strip clubs, large night clubs, big kiddie dives, and little hole-in-the-walls that had their toilets flush directly into the cellar and my feet sticking to the floor. However, these are the rare exceptions, not the general rule. I like nice restaurant bars because I don't have do deal with as much bad behavior, kids puking on my sandals, the fact that good meals add to the profit margin while I am working. and because- as a non-kid I like working with grown-ups better. BTW "Bruce", how's Dawn? Now you need a chef to prepare chicken fingers and burgers?  I ordered food when I was there and it was pretty bad. Does over charging for cocktails make a place up-scale now? I know of some strip bars that charge more than that for drinks. Does that make them up-scale environments too? What comes to mind when you hear the name "Wagon Wheel Restaurant"? I think of some worn out saloon from Virginia City on Bonanza or Gunsmoke. I don't think up-scale when I think about Wagons. 1) You never named a second venue where you say I am working, so you are already down to a half-truth. 2) I would suggest that if one were to critique the cuisine, one wouldn't order chicken fingers or burgers (which are are very good there anyway), but the lobster, steak, or maybe some of the italian dishes. Of course, to do that one would actually have to spend a little money. As I recall, you have mentioned that you are not much for the bar, so I assume the cheapest food was your go to. As for your opinion of the name,and what it makes you think of- irrelevant, as shown by their consistent success, even during a time when many issues are causing other restaurants and bars to close. So far, none of what you have stated shows true, but as my personal forum troll I commend you on the consistancy of your efforts....  
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:52 am |
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Have you already lost the gig at Jack E Pooh's? I recall you stating that you were doing gigs there in the past and I'm pretty sure that those two bars are on the same street, just a few blocks away from each other and both right across the street from the Rail road tracks and both of them are on what would be considered the "other side of the tracks". definitely not on the up scale side of town. Most bars have a late night menu that only lists items that can be thrown together rather quickly. The "waiter" wasn't even sure if the kitchen was still open. I don't know of too many people that go to a bar during karaoke at 10 or 11 O'Clock in the evening and order a lobster dinner or a steak. My chicken fingers were under cooked and not very hot by the time they brought them to our table. The breading was not even crispy. It was as if they cooked them in a microwave oven. Same for the french fries. I guess their decorated chef must have taken the night off. You have a history of exaggeration on all counts. I guess when you post on the internet; you don't expect anyone to verify what is or what isn't the truth. You make all sorts of claims about big quality speakers and when someone goes to your show they see giant 10 inch plastic speakers. And please! Let's not even talk about your singing.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:44 am |
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BruceFan4Life wrote:
1) Have you already lost the gig at Jack E Pooh's? I recall you stating that you were doing gigs there in the past .
2) The "waiter" wasn't even sure if the kitchen was still open. .
1) Aleady? Um, I was there for years. However, I have not worked there in quite some time. In my original reply, I mentioned that I have worked all kinds of bars in the past, including big kiddie bars. That was one of them. I make no case for calling that place upscale. What's your point? 2) If the kitchen was closed ( and it was if it was after 10) someone did you a FAVOR and threw something together for you. The chef was gone. Not the way to critique food in anyone's book. As for your description of my speakers: You are either lying outright, or went their on a Friday, a night where they rotate hosts. One of them might have such equipment. I have never used a ten inch speaker in a public venue in the decades that I have been in this business. Even my mini-setup has at least twelves. However, as a diva singer and not a host, one can't expect your level of technical expertise to be all that high, and maybe you just made another mistake. As for the rest of your critique- No more relevant than the trolling to which I have already replied. IAs long as I have been on forums and bulletin boards, ( and we're talking pre- World Wide Web / Internet here) running into people like you still surprises and confuses me.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:07 pm |
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I am strictly "trolling" for the truth. I've personally seen your little mini speakers in action and I've yet to see you doing a show in an up-scale location; even though you always seem to be claiming that is what you "SPECIALIZE" in.
I also recall you claiming that you were doing over 20 shows per month when you weren't doing any at all.
I also see you constantly talking about the quality of sound between discs and mp3's as if you could tell the difference. The truth is you have hearing problems that would preclude you from making those determinations.
Then you talk about how bad the Elvis Presley tracks are that have been made by Sound Choice when you don't sing on key regardless of the version of the songs you sing.
Your entire internet persona is a facade. You're a karaoke klown.
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birdofsong
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Let's shake this off, guys. Really. It's one thing to fight about crap going on in the industry, but let's try to keep this from getting too personal. Okay? Nobody has to like anyone else -- but calling someone out like this is totally unnecessary.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:46 pm |
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If someone wasn't always trying to brag about himself and his karaoke expertise, no one would have to burst his bubble of this fantasy that he has created for everyone else to buy into.
He's like one of those people that show up on American Idol with this fantasy that they have an abundance of talent when they have none what so ever. Brad Paisley wrote a song called "ONLINE" that perfectly describes this guy.
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Does it really matter, though? Really? Its not making him look bad, so I think what you're trying to convey is backfiring.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:01 pm |
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birdofsong wrote: Does it really matter, though? Really? Its not making him look bad, so I think what you're trying to convey is backfiring. so now I'm making fun of the mentally retarded and it makes me look bad? okay. If you say so. I'll let him continue spreading his "stories" without any questions and you and Chip will stop questioning anything that James Harrington posts. How's that? Deal? You and your husband can have your squabbles but I'm not allowed to have one? You're allowed to call someone out on their perceived BullSh*t but I'm not? I'll stop when you do. You're alot like Joe C. He tells people to stop calling others names and then he calls me a troll. It's beautifully ironic. Oh Heck! While I'm at it, Joe; There is a big difference between the words except and accept. For all of your genius, I would have thought that you would have known that.
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:11 pm |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: Bazza wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: NOTE TO BAZZA: I stated that someone with a strong business education would not have done what you did. This was an observation based on education and experience. This was not meant as a personal attack, and if you took it that way, please accept my apologies. 1) The crystal clear implication was that I have no "business education" or "business sense", or I wouldn't have made such a decision. But don't fear, I have a thick skin and am not upset in the slightest. JoeChartreuse wrote: I'm glad that it worked out well for you, due to circumstances rearding your disc collection as explained by you. However, generally speaking, I still say it is not something that would be considered a good business practice. 2) Absolute BS. Again you have no idea what you are talking and need to actually go to a business school. 3) Licensing and/or Leasing is a extremely common and cost effective business tactic. Any first year Business Administration student would tell you that saving over 50% on the cost of your business tools is the better move. In fact, it's common sense. . So I take it that you don't except my apology.... I'll probably sleep tonight anyway..... 2) Well, at least you don't know my background...  3) I completely agree that licensing & leasing can be very cost effective business practices- but disagree that they are in this case, because it is cost effective ONLY if one hasn't already laid out money for the purchase of said items. I will always disagree that as a matter of general practice - not your special case in which you lucked out, probably due to timing- trading product that one has ALREADY PURCHASED for leased product is bad business. If one were in the process of CHOOSING between a purchase and a lease, one could weigh the options and decide which is most cost effective. If one has already leased, then decided to buy at the end of that lease it could be cost effective. However, if one has already purchased,giving up that OUTRIGHT OWNERSHIP in trade for a lease is not a generally accepted business practice. The only exception would be if the OWNED product was at the end of it's useful life, because one would be back at the beginning, choosing between leasing or buying. Were you you planning to replace all of your discs en masse before this "opportunity arose?". If so you have never stated it. Knowing that might have forestalled a whole lot of wasted posts. Once again, you got lucky- but I would not recommend it to others. All of that being said, I am aware that you wanted the GEM set, and I am aware that you are happy with it. I have, from the first time that you mentioned it, congratulated you on your satisfaction with that product, and have stated that I am glad that you are happy with it. Accept my apology. not expect my apology.
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birdofsong
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:27 pm |
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Bruce, perhaps you didn't notice, but our "shots" at Harrington had to do with his representation of his client. We have never tr y to intentionally humiliate someone. It makes you look very small. Very small.
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I suggest you all grow up a bit..
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