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That is how the law works, whether you want to admit to it or not. The entity with the most money wins the most cases, can influence the most people, and can bend the most wills to your side. Somebody is getting greased, one way or another. If not, the laws would be changed to be more friendly to the KJs, like allowing for purchased downloads whether they be domestic or not. People like Kurt, instead of suing for a living, should be working towards making karaoke delivery better. He HAD the money, he could have lobbied to get some laws changed, but decided to grease judges instead. And, you, Harrington, are just as guilty as he is for not working towards better laws that help the KJs, instead of helping Kurt and HIS pocket.

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Smooth are you saying that Sound Choice is bribing judges? Because that's what "grease" means.

Obviously you have never stepped foot in a court room. If money truly kept people out of jail, then please explain why so many rich people are in jail? Explain why Public Defenders win cases? Why do people who defend themselves win cases? I've seen both novice and experienced lawyers win or lose cases.

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You could say that. That is exactly what I believe. This is a different type of law than criminal law. That aside, OJ beat his case in the murder of his wife. You can't tell me that Judge Ito and a few members of the jury weren't bribed. You don't see Kurt going after multi-million dollar companies. He goes after small KJs, who do not have the resources to win their cases, and can be forced to settle. Timberlea, I don't care what you claim to have seen in your life. I see what I see, and to me, THAT is what matters.

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Let's get this straight. You've accused SC and/or me of committing multiple federal felonies. You have no evidence of it (because there's no evidence to be had; it's never happened). You don't even have a good reason to believe it. (The fact that we win pretty much every time isn't a good reason. Most prosecutors win almost all of the time, too.) You are accusing a judge and the jurors in one of the most heavily scrutinized cases of all time of receiving bribes, based solely on your uninformed belief in the defendant's guilt. And you are motivated to do all of these things because you think--what, that SC is a bully? That we're picking on poor KJs who don't deserve to be scrutinized--even though most of them have STOLEN their materials?

Your charges are ludicrous, and if you knew anything at all, you'd know that a judge who's willing to accept a bribe at any price is rare indeed.

I am fiercely loyal to my clients, but there is not one of them I'd risk jail for. That you think I would is ridiculous beyond words.

And who knows what might be in another man's heart? But I have known Kurt for a long time. He has his faults, but this isn't one of them. Even more importantly, he doesn't have the resources that would be necessary to bribe a judge.

If you weren't blinded by an undeserved hatred, you would be able to see how ridiculous your charges are.

I'm not blinded by hatred. I don't CARE about you or Kurt enough to hate either one of you. I just do not believe that either one of you are honest men. I firmly believe that Kurt's issue with having to control what his customers do with the discs that they purchased is a sickness that needs treatment. And you? You are just out for money.

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Then you've missed out on an opportunity to see things as they really are, rather than how your uninformed and prejudiced viewpoint makes them out to be. That's unfortunate, but you're entitled to keep yourself ignorant. It does not, however, excuse your making a direct and entirely unfounded accusation of criminal activity on our part.

I am not looking to be excused.

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Smooth: if your not looking to be excused, then maybe you should go look up the definition of Liabel.

Whatever. Like what I said was the worse thing anyone ever said about Kurt and his Lawyer buddy.

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Because you are liable to be sued for libel.

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ok so spelling isn't my strong suit. But the sentiment still holds

I believe SC already has one lawsuit they have filed against someone for libel based on what they posted online.

The GEM set is not the only music I have. I have many "normal" discs from other manus, but they also were ripped once and set aside.



Evidently not. Don't blame the comic when you don't get the joke.

It is no longer a joke when you have made the same (or similar) comments (more than 1 time) in your past posts. If you are going to rebut what I had to say to you, don't quote me out of context....

I'm just curious. Did you receive a WARNING for pointng out someone's spelling mistake like I did?

Now that you pointed out what I pointed out, I guess I should be expecting one.
Thanks alot, you tattletale!

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It wasn't, but you are right, it was just the opinion of two lawyers who specialize in IP, and agreed with by a third attorney in Las Vegas ( add to that my 2 IP buds from my electronics days- actually FIVE attorneys in agreement, but they are no longer on retainer, and as such it's just friends talking). I would repeat that these opinions included MOBILE MUSIC HOSTING SERVICES, thus are not focused soley on home use.

So what we have here is THREE attorneys( and my two buds) who agree with my statement, and have nothing to gain by it, and ONE attorney who disagrees that derives a major part- if not most- of his income by disagreeing with me..

Call me liberal, but I think I have to gowith the THREE attorneys with nothing to gain by stating their opinions ( and my 2 battorney buds) in regard to these suits.

Come on. Do I trust the used car dealer that tells me his car is the best at the best price, or do I trust research from independent sources that won't make or lose money from the sale?

A little common sense can go a long way.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

OK, being that youa re disc based only - it's kind of moot point, however, if you were to run on computer & get named in a suit, how confident would you be in winning said suit flipping all the expenses yourself - no matter the cost based on the opinions of your friend lawyers, or would they be willing to flip all the expenses themselves thinking they would win, relieving you of any cost?
Whatever any lawyer states, it's still JUST opinion until actually tried in a court of law - which I seriously doubt anyone has the time nor resources to pursue.

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That is ridiculous, Smoothedge. You know I'm not in the Sound Choice corner, but the idea that they are personally corrupting the legal system is ridiculous. I work in civil law. Harrington is doing his job, which is trying to help them make a buck, and in the process, making a buck himself. They are not altruists. And they are also not bribing judges.

You seem to be saying that naturally the world is working for better Karaoke for all (play patriotic music), but the evil manufacturer and their dastardly (I love that word) lawyer are making sure that never happens. Nobody cares about making better Karaoke laws. Honestly. What do people care about? Eating. And having a roof over their heads.

Do I like Sound Choice. Not one bit. Do I hate their litigious tactics? Yup. I think they suck. Will I support a company that uses them? Obviously not. You probably figured out already that I'm not inviting Kurt over for dinner. But I think your view is a bit uneducated. There isn't a conspiracy around every corner.

The way I see Harrington is this - an attorney does what he needs to do to best represent his client. That's what he does. I don't like his client, but the guy is just trying to make a living. I chuckle when people here attribute greatness to him because he is an attorney (remember, I work with them and have for the last 26 years - their job is to be persuasive, even when their client is wrong (and there is always one side that's wrong)). I also chuckle when people attribute evil to them. It's a job. Some people lay down bricks. Others lay down words.

Now -- back to our regularly-scheduled program.

How about those Tigers!

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