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For many shows people sing old songs that may be five, ten or even more years old. A very large number of these oldie songs are already made into karaoke by manufacturers that can still be obtained even if the company no longer makes new disks. The market for brand new "current" songs can be served by 3-4 companies quite well, the market cant support 10 versions of the newest song being made into karaoke. The fact is that most "new-popular" songs do not stand the test of time and are laregely forgotten within a year or two.

It may appear that a lot more karaoke was made 10-15 years ago, and that may have been true but it was in part due to a large backlog of songs that could not be found and were popular enough to be requested often. Many of the manus that have gone away did not have licenses to create the songs that they sold, hence the legal system has shut them down.

While fewer new songs are being made now in the US it is almost all to keep up with the current new music. The old songs that have never been made as commercial karaoke are deeper cuts with less market appeal. A new company entering the karaoke market must either concentrate on the new song market or obscure tracks. A relatively small makret. Regardless of how good their studio musicians are, the market does not need another version of "Love Shack" it can already be purchased as karaoke in over 20 different versions.

This is a fair evaluation of most of the music that these tracks were created from as well!

Ahhh.....the good old days.......

I agree. I also think older songs have more deeper & meaningful lyrics. People sing songs they can identify with. It brings back specific memories that evoke nostalgic emotions. They found themselves falling thru memories backwards in time while singing the song. At least I think I do. I sing old songs just to escape for a few moments the warmth feeling associated with the song from years ago.

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To be fortunate enough to derive an income from a source as fulfilling as karaoke music has got to be as close to heaven as we can get here on earth!

Awwww, touching. Actually you are right all the way.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Well, thank you ripman! 'Glad that we agree this time.

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To be fortunate enough to derive an income from a source as fulfilling as karaoke music has got to be as close to heaven as we can get here on earth!

Hi, I don't think Karaoke is dead, but since such tv shows such as the X Factor, ETC its just been to much, and know and I am speaking for myself know and going off topic a bit, but there is a lot of Apathy, for example people can't be bothered to clap you if your good maybe apathy, maybe jealousy. There is no good vibe to it anymore, I am English but live in Thailand, so am talking about the scene here. I just guess they don't like a foreigner coming here and singing there music better than them I guess. I don't bother going much know. Some stupid ignorant and selfish jealous people can just kill the fun off it all, because there tiny little egos cant take it, and unlike us have no Inspirations to be better yet envy us.

Sorry about that had to get that off my chest

I actually have a rule when I go.. I try to never repeat the same song twice but there are some guys who sing "unchained melody" by the Righteous brothers in the Elvis key every week never get any better, why do they bother? Thats killing it.

I don’t know how it is in Thailand, but here in the States most shows, if not all are conducted this way: when you sing you’ll get the recognition you deserve regardless of how good (or not so good) you perform, without regard to being local, tourist or foreigner. Everybody gets the same treatment.

I’ll make sure applause is given after each & every performance or they’ll hear it from me, like: “hey, hard enough for someone to be up here doing their best to entertain you, so please give them the same respect as you would expect to receive”. Or words to that effect. Doesn’t happen very often, though. Sometimes the audience is not paying attention they forget. Better forced than no applause at all. It’s rude & also affects the singer’s self-esteem.

But then again, I’m sure there’s a difference between family restaurant serving beer & wine (where I’m at) than a Full Bar serving alcohol where there are more inebriated, intoxicated people. Try to deal with that!

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To be fortunate enough to derive an income from a source as fulfilling as karaoke music has got to be as close to heaven as we can get here on earth!

Karaoke is alive and well in the Northwest:
http://www.nwkaraokeguide.net/

Is there another way to sing it?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

when they ask you "how did i sound?" do you lie, or do you tell them the truth?

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It's all good!

Neither, as I have found wordsmithing to be integral to the art of Karaoke Hosting.

"Did it feel right for you? then it must be."

" Singing it your way is the only way you should sing it."

" Look around you- see the smiles?"

To a woman: "You sing as good as you look!" ( Seriously. what can they say to that? )

In other words, if one can't lie, and telling the truth could be hurtful, EVADE!

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

I hate to say it, but I have rarely seen bigger egos than some karaoke singers. I'm not talking about the occasional *actually awesome* singer that is hanging out in a karaoke bar. I'm talking about the regulars who think they are anything but!

I think they forget that they are at karaoke.....where it's about fun, not contracts.

My favorite line: "That's the absolute best I think I have ever heard anybody sing that song tonight". Of course I say that with a smile : )

I've heard KJ's tell people that....of course with a smile....

It's time I posted another message in here since I signed up in 2003 and have only ever posted one message!

Zoom is very much alive and well - we produce around 40-50 new songs a month. Many of these songs are for download only as the days of making new CDG/DVD titles are certainly numbered.

From reading some of the posts on here, it certainly would seem that many karaoke manufactures are dead, mostly due to the fact that they're being sued by music publishers. It seems that many of the companies I thought were respectable and above board were actually just pirates themselves all along.

Kind Regards,

Joe
Zoom Karaoke

I'm seeing improvement!

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Right on all counts AND you make a dynamite product! My kind of karaoke producer.....

Oh yes, and a great first name- but then, I'm a bit biased...

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Karaoke is morphing. You can no longer, put together a system, buy a 3000 song library, sit there calling one singer after the next mindlessly, and expect get work, much less a decent price for the night.

Now this is my opinion but... a Kay Jay, that can Dee Jay, run a multimedia show with music videos, and run a light show will ALWAYS find work and be able to get top dollar. Some know nothing knuckledhead who pirates his music and buys a cheap system doesn't stand a chance against me... I don't care how cheap he goes.

Bar owners aren't bright, but they know how to count the register.

The thing is the REAL hosts and talents will continue to be around as the pretenders fall by the wayside. You can't win with price if what you are offering sucks... and you can charge a good premium if what you are offering is top notch. Good hosts evolve and innovate... To those who can't adapt and overcome, I say good riddance.

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Good music, good friends, howling good times!

I agree with this more and more each week. I have spend more time with my DMX Light Controller over the past 2 months. All I am doing is manually sliding 6 faders to control 1 LED PAR light, but I have received many compliments on lighting for setting a mood. I bought a nice Chauvet Scorpion Laser several months ago too that also garners a lot of compliments (also DMS capable but I have not taken the time to play with that yet.)

Two weeks ago, when I replaced the sound system at my downtown gig, I accidentally left my light bar at home. I had a lot of regulars and a lot of new people there and there was a noticeable and vocal change in the crowd.

I have always paid close attention to pre-show/post-show and filler music for setting mood.

I don't do the video thing just because I have a tendency to get wrapped up watching them and get distracted. That is detrimental to my show.

-Chris

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-Chris