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I can't get it to work either.

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Danny are you logged in?

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Seems to work, you do have to be logged in though, it wouldn't do anything with that link alone not being logged in.

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Purchasing new music does not necessarily equate to it being New/Current music. Purchasing new music for my library can (and does) also consist of Oldies (songs from the 60's, 70's, 80's).

I posted my e-mail correspondences with Tricia here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25501&start=20

As already stated before, you have to be logged in to be able to SEARCH for song tracks. You need to know the title or artist to search tho. You can't do a Letter search (like check what titles are under the letter "C") without scrolling through everything starting at the Letter "A."

Pretty much the same here. Although I do get new stuff (monthly release and requests) most of my 'new' requests are also oldies from 70's-2000's. Nothing much in the 60's or earlier.

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While you may be correct, I know that you don't make features available to users who cannot use them. IF YOU DO, you create an ex/exception and and "Error Message" - like this site does - "You must be logged in".

All potential users aren't on here, Cueball. They shouldn't be relying on 3rd parties to explain what you can and can't do on their site, anyways.

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Hey All, we (PCDJ) just announced our official update of Karaoki with in-app KCP support. I figured this thread as good a place as any to post about it. You can read more and view the videos (one video showcases how it works in our software) http://www.pcdj.com/karaoki-and-karaoke-cloud-pro

I do have an honest question. Based on everything I've learned from industry professionals recently suggests none of these downloads sites (in the US or elsewhere) are legal for commercial use. It seems to contradict what I'm seeing various users post via this forum. What don't I know? Thanks!

But your service now offers downloads on the fly?

It's all gray. Gray as gray. Public use is supposed to be covered by the BMI and the like. As for whether downloads are"legal" for public use, the only ones that would care would be the publishers and if you bought from a site that paid it's license fees, why would they really care?

BMI and the like do care somewhat if you bought what you are playing but they are really concerned about the venue and those fees are "suppose" to go to the writers.

Thanks MrBoo, that makes sense to me.

We're not offering a way to purchase the KCP tracks in our app, but we do offer two built in stores (Select-A-Track and KaraokeLocker) - however we advertise them currently for "home or private use"

Thanks again!

Both of which are supposedly not licensed for download use for shows in the US. Didn't Karaoke-Locker recently state something like that? At least that is what someone said here recently.

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Correct, the majority of the files at karaokelocker.com are provided by The Karaoke Channel (in way of Stingray, in way of Sound Choice originally) and are only for home or private use. Many KJ's suggest they buy from Select-A-Track and use them for public performance however. We still market them for home/private use regardless.

But isn't that KIND of a bait & switch method? People are buying this 'pro' software for their shows, thinking they have the ability to download songs on the fly for their show - the typical 'home' users aren't going to buy a pro software for their personal use, so why would this option even be available within a 'pro' program if it's only supposed to be used in home and not in public? There is nothing on the download page stating for home use only (without digging into fine print of TOS). One user here is going with PCDJ because they think they can download immediately for show use and have it be completely legal.
One of the lawsuits that were here, they used PCDJ & downloaded from KaraokeLocker (proudly stated this in their advertising) - now I don't know what else they had, but they are now GEM owners & no longer use KL for downloads.

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I admit we didn't fully understand the legalities of online purchases until somewhat recently - the built-in stores were introduced well beforehand. We were asked to change the licensing agreement policy on our karaokelocker.com site which in turn prompted us to dig deeper and learn more. Keep in mind we are distributed globally, our software is very popular in the UK for instance. It's my understanding you can purchase from SAT there and use them for public performance. In fact, it seems on this forum it's still considered a "grey area" - and I'm no expert...

We do have a lot of home users too, they just use it for friends and family. In our email follow ups after downloading a demo of Karaoki we also state the built in stores are for home/private use. This is one of the reasons we were so excited to offer the KCP integration, to offer a true commercial solution no questions asked.

Ultimately it's up to the professional to use due diligence in what they use to gig with, our software is simply a vehicle. I do understand your point though.

Wrong forum

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I didn't buy from the Karaoke Channel as they had the specific notice about home use. I don't know why as some disk manus had a similar notice on their disks with almost a wink wink behind it. I bought the same tracks from VenueVJ which did target DJs and KJs. My primary issue with Karaoke Locker is hardly any of the samples work. The notice, in my mind anyway, says, "We didn't pay for public performance when we licensed". But if the venue covers that then...

The public performace deal came about so the writers could get something back for their efforts after the fact. The publishers GIVE the music to radio stations for exposure and get nothing back except sales in the stores. The performer gets nothing unless they wrote, other than a kick from sales and concert rev. The public performance in bars is derived from the same radio concept. I'm not sure what they (including K.C.) could do about public performance unless the writers guild gets involved. And if the BMI's are getting their cut there just isn't much room for litigation.

Now someone could develop a trademark infringement deal...

I’m so lost, unsure, perplexed & confused! Caught between a rock & a hard place again. To download, or not to download? Feelings revisited. I have to choose again between unpleasant alternatives knowing that this choice might cause me problems down the road.

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Indeed. One thing's for sure, the karaoke space seems to be a overly convoluted one.

So, then what is the status with Select a Track? Are you only selling them for home use, too?? I knew locker was only for home use.

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