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Send me a private message when you are able to sell the entire catalog rom Stage Stars.. :")

OK, I waited to see if anyone caught this, but they didn't, so:

You asked Gretchen if DT tracks were ok to use for hosting a U.S. based karaoke show, and she replied that they are.

Technically correct, but only as far as DT is concerned.

DT doesn't care how they are used- the answer is misleading. Even Jim Harrington has stated that download sites cannot issue licensing for useage.
Even if the SITE is licensed for distribution to professional KJs ( and most state "for home use only"), THEY are not responsible for useage and have no licensing to offer from the publisher/owner to that end. Why? Because THEY are not KJs. THEY do not use the product for that purpose, and have no reason to pay for licensing for it.

Once YOU create YOUR files in YOUR computer, YOU are responsible for licensing the use for a U.S. based karaoke show.

I'm sure that you can do this with enough work and fees, but do not assume the site has done this FOR you- they haven't.

Don't believe me? GOOD! It's up to YOU to learn about YOUR business. All I ask is that you be smart about it. Do not askSOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO SELL YOU PRODUCT if commercial useage is OK. Ask an IP lawyer about the Owner/Publisher position. Then you will KNOW- no arguements, no debates.....

BTW- For those who think I have some sort of bone to pick with DT ( or even CB), I do not, and never did. Not only that, I give kudos to DT for culling more than half the CB collection in hopes of keeping licensing problems to a minimum. Excellent!

Just passing on things to think about.....

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I don't know Joe......if Gretchen says.......

The club pays the PRO - THAT is the useage fee.

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Joe:

If you buy a file from DT you are not creating anything. They are sending you an exact duplicate of the file. You didn't create it they did by sending it to you. Now if you copy it to say another folder or hard drive then you have created that but not the original file that they sent to you.

If I'm not mistaken Microsoft and a lot of other software companies do this with their stuff. You buy it, they send you the file, it's legal to use no difference.

If you have ever once downloaded some kind of software from say Advast, McAfee, Microsoft, etc. They you have the same thing. If it wasn't legal then CNET the largest distributor of software would have been gone long ago.

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Again, incorrect. First, they don't SEND you anything. You download data from the site.That data doesn't become a karaoke track until it is re-created on your computer.

Also, while they OFFER a Qc'd file, there is no guarantee ( and it's almost impossible) that your re-created file is an EXACT duplicate.

To repeat an example: I have downloaded regular music from Amazon for my kid's player. Instead of using my home PC, which is a DSL, I tried it on this-my office PC- which is dial-up ( only normally use it for e-mail and this stuff). I got a drop out and a lock-up in a song. Now, I'm thinking that the error was not "factory original" but rather caused by the crappy telephone transfer media, or by downloading into a ten year old Dell Inspiron 1000.

Of course, I could have told her that it came factory original like that, but then I would have to explain why the second try through DSL on a 1 year old lappy worked fine.

Even more noteworthy is simple common sense.
As recently stated by Jim Harrington ( with whom you may have noticed I generally disagree) as well, if the original remains in place ( ripping leaves the original on the disc, downloading leaves the original on the site) then whatever is in your PC cannot possibly be the original.

If you rip your disc to a PC, is the file the original, or the SOURCE?

And before someone brings it up again for no possible reason, Yes, the factory sells their disc copies of retained masters, but those discs are still produced and QCed at the factory- making them factory originals as well.

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Funny I think out of every download i've ever done (approx 350), I had maybe 2 songs that needed to be redone due to a glitch on MY computer. Once redownloaded, they worked as they should have.

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However since SC does not offer downloads, that point is moot. The ones that do have supposedly obtained the rights to allow them - making whatever download you obtain an original source on your computer from the source file.

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[quote="Lonman"
[/quote]However since SC does not offer downloads, that point is moot. The ones that do have supposedly obtained the rights to allow them - making whatever download you obtain an original source on your computer from the source file.[/quote]

well, that is the publishers stance on it.

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Not my point, though I am happy for you. You are not claiming that the download is factory original. For reasons unknown, some folks are.

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Incorrect. Believe it or not, not ALL of my posts are simply anti-SC. Sometimes they are just informational- in this case in regard to ANYONE'S downloaded karaoke files.

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