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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:55 am 
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personally, I'm an isolationist, and as far as I'm concerned, you and the rest of Europe could be speaking German right now.....


Jon WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!! If you have something to say just say it less of the cryptic crap, or are you afraid of being watched :twisted:

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I think CostaKaraoke & a few with provocative comments took this thread way down south. :( Just saying.....


Like this never happens on here, besides......my country was attacked :?
Ok, I'm done with this post.....sorry for the party hardy

ps....That was cryptic?...... :lol: and I'll have you know.....I'm the one that likes to watch.... :twisted:


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I'm not a KJ, but a singer here on SS, and I happened to see this convo on the Twitter feed and found it fascinating.

Of course the real-life shootings are awful, especially this recent one, and that idiot guy in karaoke should not have made those comments. Appropriate action was taken.

But about the song...

I'm 51, so I don't hear too many of the newer songs (don't listen to the radio too often), but sometimes I will hear them here on SS, or on the radio somewhere while out, and think, that's a pretty song, or that is catchy, and then look it up. One of those I looked up this past year was "Pumped up Kicks" because I kept hearing it a lot (very popular) and it is very catchy and also a little retro-sounding. I couldn't understand the words except for "all the other kids".

I thought the words were pretty clever. It's obviously meant to be evocative of things like Columbine. Just looking at the song on the fact of it, my own interpretation, it's about teens, not little kids. It's about a neglected kid who finds his dad's gun and takes it to school to start shooting the other kids. So you could get from the lyrics that it's saying if you neglect your kids, they will act out in anger (and also they will get hold of your liquor, cigarettes and guns).

You can read more about it at Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped_Up_Kicks
as the song's author talks about why he wrote it, and that it's from the POV of the kid, and that he actually wrote it to promote awareness of gun violence.

As for censoring songs in karaoke, of course if you're a KJ or bar owner you can have whatever songs you want, but just me, personally, as a singer, I would probably not go back to a show that did that (if I knew they were doing that) unless I really really loved the place. I went to one censored show years ago in Vegas. It was so ridiculous, too, because 1) it was in Vegas, and 2) it was in a bar called "The Ho" on the sleaziest street near the Strip where all the strip clubs are! So, it was very silly to censor it-- it's not like they were having a lot of children there. I sang the Broadway song "Dance: Ten, Looks: Three", the chorus of which is "Tits and (@$%&#!)", and the KJ muted me every time there was a bad word! That was the other ridiculous thing - if you're going to censor, then at least just take the song out, or warn people you are going to do that. It was very disconcerting because all I could tell was that the mic was not working at times. She was not that close by, so I kept looking over at her quizzically, but she didn't tell me anything. Anyway, it was bad show, and I would never go back even if they were still in business.

As for the idea that getting rid of guns or assault weapons would not lessen the shootings... of course it would. Saying "they would find some other way" is a poor excuse because then why have ANY laws? Why have rape laws? Rapists will find a way around them. Why have traffic laws? People speed anyway. So that's just ludicrous. Of course we should do whatever we can to prevent these kind of shootings. We have more gun deaths BY FAR than any other western country and it's just crazy.

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personally, I'm an isolationist, and as far as I'm concerned, you and the rest of Europe could be speaking German right now.....


Jon WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!! If you have something to say just say it less of the cryptic crap, or are you afraid of being watched :twisted:


He was talking about history - he was saying that we should not have gotten involved in WWII and saved you and the other Europeans from Hitler. I'm just explaining, not agreeing...

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Suzanne, you talk a lot of sense.

It was the idiot singer that was the problem in that situation, not the song, so censor the singer and not the song. What happened in Connecticut was a tragedy, simple as that. Deleting "Pumped Up Kicks" from a karaoke songbook is not going to bring back the victims, or prevent further tragedies of this nature.


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He was talking about history - he was saying that we should not have gotten involved in WWII and saved you and the other Europeans from Hitler.


The Americans version of events has always amused me. :-)

Anyway seems poor old Piers is going to be deported as well. Gotta say you seem to love your guns as much as the Muslims love the Koran.........

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I doubt he will be deported... please don't slander all Americans. We are not all gun-loving pro-war right-wingers. It just seems that way in the media sometimes....

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Anyway seems poor old Piers is going to be deported as well.


It will never happen. This whole deportation business is comical, especially since he was simply giving an opinion. Its funny & disgusting how many of our fellow Americans brag about being "free" then want to kick someone out for exercising it! :roll:


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Suzanne Lanoue wrote:
I'm not a KJ, but a singer here on SS, and I happened to see this convo on the Twitter feed and found it fascinating.

Of course the real-life shootings are awful, especially this recent one, and that idiot guy in karaoke should not have made those comments. Appropriate action was taken.

But about the song...

I'm 51, so I don't hear too many of the newer songs (don't listen to the radio too often), but sometimes I will hear them here on SS, or on the radio somewhere while out, and think, that's a pretty song, or that is catchy, and then look it up. One of those I looked up this past year was "Pumped up Kicks" because I kept hearing it a lot (very popular) and it is very catchy and also a little retro-sounding. I couldn't understand the words except for "all the other kids".

I thought the words were pretty clever. It's obviously meant to be evocative of things like Columbine. Just looking at the song on the fact of it, my own interpretation, it's about teens, not little kids. It's about a neglected kid who finds his dad's gun and takes it to school to start shooting the other kids. So you could get from the lyrics that it's saying if you neglect your kids, they will act out in anger (and also they will get hold of your liquor, cigarettes and guns).

You can read more about it at Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped_Up_Kicks
as the song's author talks about why he wrote it, and that it's from the POV of the kid, and that he actually wrote it to promote awareness of gun violence.

As for censoring songs in karaoke, of course if you're a KJ or bar owner you can have whatever songs you want, but just me, personally, as a singer, I would probably not go back to a show that did that (if I knew they were doing that) unless I really really loved the place. I went to one censored show years ago in Vegas. It was so ridiculous, too, because 1) it was in Vegas, and 2) it was in a bar called "The Ho" on the sleaziest street near the Strip where all the strip clubs are! So, it was very silly to censor it-- it's not like they were having a lot of children there. I sang the Broadway song "Dance: Ten, Looks: Three", the chorus of which is "Tits and <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span>", and the KJ muted me every time there was a bad word! That was the other ridiculous thing - if you're going to censor, then at least just take the song out, or warn people you are going to do that. It was very disconcerting because all I could tell was that the mic was not working at times. She was not that close by, so I kept looking over at her quizzically, but she didn't tell me anything. Anyway, it was bad show, and I would never go back even if they were still in business.

As for the idea that getting rid of guns or assault weapons would not lessen the shootings... of course it would. Saying "they would find some other way" is a poor excuse because then why have ANY laws? Why have rape laws? Rapists will find a way around them. Why have traffic laws? People speed anyway. So that's just ludicrous. Of course we should do whatever we can to prevent these kind of shootings. We have more gun deaths BY FAR than any other western country and it's just crazy.

OK, enough of my soapbox :)


You could get your hands on a big truck or SUV and easily run over 20 or more people in a crowded parking lot or playground before the police could get there to stop you. Crazy people will always find a way to do their dirty deeds. People have been killing other people since Cain and Abel. It will NEVER be stopped. Unfortunately, there will always be crazy and evil people in the world.


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Nobody said we could get rid of all crime, violence, or evil, but we still need laws to attempt to limit it as much as we can. They have done so very successful in other Western counties like the UK and Canada.

Anyway, I'm done arguing this....it is no longer about the original topic or anything to do with karaoke!

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Some of you are acting like some of the (not meaning anybody on here ) morons on singsnap taking (@$%&#!) way to damn serious and out of context
has got nothing to do with singing or karaoke .
and also your making it about other (@$%&#!) instead of what the real issue was or is
take a chill pill and go some place else and settle down .

that's the one damn thing I hated really and truly hated about singsnap's message board , all the time people were fighting about stuff that wasn't the issue of what the post was :(
and turned it into a angry mob crap .
please don't let that happen on here because that was truly an ugly sight to see on singsnap and I hate to see that happening on here :(


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Well, whether online or off, people rarely do keep any conversation on the original topic or one particular topic... human nature, I guess! But I've done enough arguing about gun control on Facebook, so I don't need to do it here.

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WEll, maybe everyone else doesn't spend a lot of their time on facebook and when a topic comes up here, they respond to it, regardless of the topic? topics normally veer off. It's ilke 6 degrees of separation. Everything is related to everything else if you make enough jumps.


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You could get your hands on a big truck or SUV and easily run over 20 or more people in a crowded parking lot or playground before the police could get there to stop you.


I would love to see the stats for that one, homicide Gun crime V homicide truck crime?

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Some of you are acting like some of the (not meaning anybody on here ) morons on singsnap taking (@$%&#!) way to damn serious and out of context
has got nothing to do with singing or karaoke .
and also your making it about other (@$%&#!) instead of what the real issue was or is
take a chill pill and go some place else and settle down .

that's the one damn thing I hated really and truly hated about singsnap's message board , all the time people were fighting about stuff that wasn't the issue of what the post was
and turned it into a angry mob crap .
please don't let that happen on here because that was truly an ugly sight to see on singsnap and I hate to see that happening on here


The most sensible post so far......

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It's ilke 6 degrees of separation. Everything is related to everything else if you make enough jumps.


Sorry equal first....

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Suzanne! Do you really think that some people refrain from raping women because there is a law against it? as if they wouldn't know that it was wrong without the law being on the books?

Traffic laws on the other hand are just there to collect money for municipalities. The average driver breaks the speed laws every day without even realizing it. Do you know how difficult it is to drive 25 MPH? or how difficult it is to drive 55 MPH when everyone around you is driving 70 MPH? Some cars are just picked out of the "herd" and they lose the traffic lottery that day. Do you think that the guy making a million dollars a year cares about that measley $200 finethat he got speeding in his Mercedes? Not nearly as much as the guy making minimum wage driving that 15 year old clunker. That's for sure. Since they can't get EVERYONE; they should just pull over cars that cost more than $50,000 and let those rich folks pay for the municipalities expenses. Now if someone is actually driving in a reckless manner; they should be ticketed but if someone is just keeping up with the surrounding traffic...because it is actually safer than driving slower when everyone else is speeding, they should be given a break and pull over the car and driver that seems to have money to bburn.

Back to rapists...since you brought that wonderful topic into the forum... Rapists are animals that should be slaughtered. Plain and simple. Do you really think that a rapist will be stopped if his victim points out to him that what he is about to do is against the law? All a rapist cares about is committing his criminal act without getting caught so he can do it again. The only reason that rape laws exist is because we, as a society, know that rapes will occur so we have to have a law against it so we can punish the rapist......ONCE HE GETS CAUGHT. The law was not put there as a preventative measure. If it was, it is failing miserably.


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Yes, I do believe that plenty of laws deter criminals as well as punish them. We need to have laws because they keep most people in line.

You are wrong about traffic laws, too. Drunk driving laws and checkpoints have reduced drunk driving accidents and deaths. Seat belt laws and speeding laws have also helped reduce traffic accidents, injuries and deaths. Some European countries have no speed limits, or really high ones, and they have a lot more speeding-related deaths.

No one was saying you can get all criminals, but the laws do help. As would more restrictive gun laws (as they do in other countries).

And about the previous post, I wasn't saying everyone should go on Facebook. I was just saying, about me, personally, I'm tried of arguing about the subject for that reason.

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try skipping over posts that you don't want to get involved in.


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I agree!!! I would just like to say i'm also a big Bruce Forsyth fan!

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