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It all boils down to the singer, and if they're comfortable with a version they own, or have sung several times before, they are going to choose that version, doesn't matter how good it is.
As far as DK recording versions a half to a whole tone lower than the original>>>>I like that on some songs>

Sure, but that is what a key changer is for, a manu shouldn't assume that people cannot hit those note & take it upon themselves to record them lower automatically.

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If I needed a song in a lower key, I would much rather that they do it in the factory than with a karaoke player. Some karaoke players key changers really mess up the way a song is played back when the song is lowered more than one half-step. If they record the song originally in that lower key, it will play very nicely in that key and not sound all wobbly. Just my opinon.

But a manu shouldn't 'assume' that a song is too high for most singers is what i'm getting at.

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I agree. I went to sing a Prince song at one of my colleague's shows, and the version essentially drug Prince's high falsetto down to the point where it wasn't impressive anymore. I, for one, have only used one system where key changes posed a significant problem in playback. It was a rickety old board that probably shouldn't have been used in public anyway.

if you had a hundred different men sing at your show, how many of them could easily sing any Journey song in it's original key? How about any song by Meatloaf or RUSH? My guess would be about 10 people with a maximum of 15 people. The other 85% of the people would be happy if their songs were produced in a lower key and I'm sure that was DK's thinking when they made their tracks in a lower key. The pan flute bugs me more than the key change. If someone wants to sing it in th eoriginal key, they can always use the Key Changer to raise the key.

As far as the "pan flute" goes, if one is singing in tune, it won't be heard, as the vocals will cover it . The only time it will be heard is if the singer is out of tune. It is specifically designed to keep a new/amateur singer on tune. Hence, designed for the new/amateur singer......

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There have been dozens of karaoke companies that have come and gone. There was only one of them that used the pan flute to "help" out the singer in most of their tracks. Most people would prefer that it wasn't there. I use the music of the song to keep me on key. I don't need an extra instrument to do that.

Exactly. A karaoke song should be the way you feel it, if you aren't on 'key' and are still singing it where it sounds good, then that is a bonus, the pan flute tells others - that ain't right. You doin't have to sing a song identical to the original & still have it sound good.

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The DK is still the core of my library after all these years, my set of original 99 is still in tact, and nobody is asking for an audit. I don't use SC at all and still doing shows six days a week. My most requested label is still DK. Rock On.

In my opinion, you lose a bit of quality when you go up or down, so if it's recorded, where I can sing it, that's sweet.... ...but if you don't like the key of a DK track...use the key changer....I'm told that's what it's for.....

Totally agree......
That's probably why I like Sound Choice.....I'm not too accurate on those melodies......

Add me to the "I don't like tracks that have a flute or other instrument where the vocal goes" list... There are more ways to be in tune than to copy the original note for note, and the "guide" can really limit a singer who wants to do their own thing with the song.

As far as changing the original key, it makes less sense IMO than to just ask the kj to change the key if you need them to. Nearly all popular songs fall within a range that at least some singers at any given show can comfortably sing within, so why not give them the songs in the keys they are familiar with and let them?

Easy for a woman to say.... most popular/numerous male songs are usually too high for the average male, but the average female has no problem singing these, which I find they do quite often. The average woman's voice range seems to be up for most of the female popular songs also, with a few exceptions. IMHO.....females have a greater choice in songs that fall within their range. Other famous singers, as well as the original artists change the keys of song, when it suits them....why shouldn't we average american males have the same option?.... ...

I am a female and Bruno Mars and Train are too high for me. But then I'm not average...

But I think the trade off is there seem to be more songs for males to sing than for females so we have to poach a bit. But I would have no problem with a guy coming up and singing (notice I did not say "doing" what with Johnny R on board--wouldn't he like to be...)--where was I--oh,"Single Ladies" or "California Girls." In fact I did use to have a male that sang Bonnie Raitt songs.

women always want the best of both worlds.... I think it's called tunis envy......
I not only sing female songs.....sometimes I dress for the occasion.......and I'm a below average male..... ......you name it, whatever.......I fail to meet the standard(just trying to clear up any confusion.... )

I get gender benders all the time. Just because a guy or gal wrote/sang it doesn't necessarily mean it HAS to be sung or is meant to be sung by the same gender.

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my friend and boss B&B karaoke once in a great while we get complainers about the song tracks not being what they want them to be .
and sometimes they say i'm not singing that song track pick another one and when we tell them that's the only version of that song we have they drop the mic not putting back on the stand which it's a good thing my dad is always there cause lets just say he's my straight jacket or i'd go nutso on the turkeys
anways my boss she gets what she can get sometimes it's chartbuster sometimes it's sound choice or sound fly sometimes it's something else but she can get what she gets and the people have to live with it or don't sing the song .
me I had the problem of one time I was singing the song you'll see and it froze up right in the middle of me singing the song still played but the words stuck
I sang it anyways I know that song by heart

I know I haven't been on here for awhile been busy my mother decided to move back into her house , and I've been busy helping her move and clean and other (@$%&#!) she keeps finding unpleasent to her liking
only thing I have been able to do is a video on youtube then get off go to bed and get up by 9
actually starting to feel like I'm in high school again

I still think it makes more sense to leave songs in the original key of the artist who made them popular, because that way people will know what to expect, and that means they'll know what they do or don't need to ask for as far as key changes.

Being a female singer has nothing to do with it. "Too high/Too low" is relative. What about songs that span 3 octaves or more, like the Heatwave version of Always And Forever, or Aerosmith's Dream On? Lower the key? Raise it?If you wouldn't alter the key of a song that has some rather low as well as rather high notes, why do it with a song that has one or the other?

People pick songs based on what they know, which is usually their range and the range needed for a song's original key. Why throw in "surprises"that aren't necessary?