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Of course the Canadian or US Mints, who have been operating a lot longer than SC, never make a mistake or distribute flawed money or stamps. Mistakes happen. How many times have you said something is 100% and it wasn't so. In fact, some things can be considered 100% without being perfect.

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I did not intend to claim infallibility, and I realize now that what I meant to say is not what I said above.

I have never intentionally posted anything on this board that wasn't true--which is, I think, all that we can aspire to.

Yes.....I just followed up with looking at disks number 10004 - 10010 and 100% of those also use the same Sound Choice Pro Series blue logo. So 10001 - 10010 are 100% accurate in my set.

I purchased my GEM series Dec 2011 so it may be that he purchased his much earlier and they have performed additional QA since then. I did have a couple of "update" discs with replacement CDG and MP3 files that fixed bad files in the run.

-Chris

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OK...all things being equal, this would point out a flaw that bearers of the GEM Series might wish to be aware of...and perhaps Sound Choice may wish to consider issuing a recall on. My observation of this anomaly was not something the GEM Series bearer in question had considered a potential issue until now. The Gem Series bearer in this instance is not interested in visiting forums.

This could actually be a positive result of the stimulation of conversation. The way my thought processes work, when someone describes a product or situation to me, I tend to go into Quality Control mode. The positive aspects of a product are generally visible, so I tend to dig into them from a "worst-case scenario" position in attempt to limit the occurrence of negative outcomes.

Thank you for your imput, Chris...perhaps other GEM Series bearers can chime in as well, if for no other reason, to determine the extent of this "situation"...

Agreed...it is often difficult to determine intent when all-inclusive terminology is used. That is why I personally avoid it like the plague. In summary, I do not believe one should ever consider the phrase, "To the best of my knowledge" to be understood, when the phraseology of the statement gives no indication of that intent.

Yeah! I say we discuss this further over a few Buds.

Does EVERYthing have to be a debate? Please re-read the OP, and let it sink in:

1) The thread title is "The Barest Hint Of A Rumor"- no claim to credibility.

2) I said word of mouth- which means it came from someone's MOUTH, not a forum. Verbal.

3) I said that I wasn't even sure of the ground and lacked detail. I also said that it doesn't sound right, being more akin to a publisher suit than a KJ or home user suit.

Why make any acusations? All I asked for was any knowledge of the possibility of it's existence. No knowledge? Then it was probably just what I called it- a rumor.

Forget I brought it up.... Geez....

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....and you too, Jim. Was the OP too difficult to understand? I questioned a rumor that was told to me by another KJ, posting what he told me. I suggested absolutely nothing, yet you claim I did ( so much for 100% accuracy). I've re-read the post, and cannot find anything there that obsures it's meaning.

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Well, since no one read the OP anyway, I don't mind hijacking my own thread with questions/favor request for Dowhatchulike:

Would you be kind enough to ask your GEM user friend two things for me?

Would he/she check those 3 discs for the following?:

1) Are they burned or pressed?

2) Do the title screens contain "In the style of {artist's name}"?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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I need a BV & Sprite!

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While it is true that you at least as far as I can tell you have not posted anything that wasn't true, you do put a spin on what you release, to place your client SC in the best possible light. You are a paid spokesman for Kurt and company and therefore have professional and financial reasons, to maintain a proper image. I seem to remember that you said new SC product would be released last year and it never happened? Now new product is supposed to be released in March, and you made some mention that Joe and I would have deal with that. Well it is nearly March I hope you are on track this time. I hope you won't come up with some lame excuse like APS and Donna Boris ripped us off and we didn't have the funds to launch the new product. I seem to remember you have claimed several times SC is not tottering on the brink of bankruptcy, that the company is sound. How sound can it be if the theft of $200,000.00 halts new production? It would seem to me you are spread thin, and the single filing of law suits will only add to the cost of your legal process. I would never call anyone a liar to there face, I would however weigh what they told me very carefully. Have a blessed day.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about, so you make stuff up.

The major holdup on new product in 2012 was the amount of time required to acquire licenses. The embezzlements and other misconduct by those two created additional distractions that took focus off new production. The funds themselves were not the issue.



The theft of money did not "halt new production." It required that time that would have been spent on production-related activities had to be spent on dealing with the theft. Considering that the prediction from the pro-pirate crowd was that SC would never return to production, I'd say we're ahead of the game at this point.

The only thing that has spread me thin recently is having to deal with Boris and Brophy. We're mostly at the end of that.

Having to file individual lawsuits doesn't bother us, as I've said. We will simply recoup the additional expense through settlements--meaning that the defendants who have chosen to complain about joinder have only cost themselves additional money. I believe that "shooting themselves in the foot" is the appropriate metaphor.

Comes to Washington for an entirely different kind of buds!

-Chris

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Why? Because, putting it politely, you have proven in this forum time & again that you have a very active imagination.




I have never seen a RED title screen on any of my GEM songs. However, I also have not viewed every song out of the 6000.

Doowhatchoolike. Are you 100% sure this "friend" is a GEM licensee?

If so, this can be solved rather quickly. Ask him to send you a screen shot of one of his RED GEM title screens along with a disc/cut number and a picture of the corresponding physical disc. The rest of us will then post screen shots of the same from our GEM sets. Seems pretty easy to prove or disprove.

Or, we can all keep the rumors flowing.

I thought about recording my process of checking the first 10 discs on the GEM series, but I didn't think people would be interested in seeing 20-25 mins of me launching track after track.

-Chris

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Nice spin James I don't seem to remember it going down that way, I believe you posted the loss of over $200,000.00 caused a delay in new product coming out. I hope you do go back into production at least that would give you some creditability as a still viable company. I also hope that this resumption of production is not just a ploy to quiet your detractors. We have this year and next it will be interesting to see who's left standing me or SC. Either I will be fully retired or you will be out of business. It will be interesting to see who the last man standing is. Have a blessed day.

UPDATE: I received correspondence that the original GEM disc was examined, and that there IS a "BLUE PRO" logo at the beginning of the songs, with the song title and the "In The Style Of" designation. It was due to a setting on his player that the screen was not seen, because there is apparently no audio in those portions. HOWEVER, the logo at the end IS the standard SC logo, so it seems that it could cause confusion at a show if they are played in this manner, since no one would see anything but a Standard RED logo.

Can you folks verify if the closing logo on your GEM sets is RED or not? Thank you.

I have noticed a mix of the familiar red logo along with the newer blue logo as the closer for many of the GEM tracks. It seems you can determine of the closing logo is red or blue based on the color of the lyric scroll.

If you have white lyrics with a blue wipe, you will have a blue logo at the end.

If you have anything else, it seems you end up with the familiar red logo.

I only did a quick spot check so I don't know if this holds true across all of them.

-Chris

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OK...it seems that, best case scenario, there is inconsistency in the product, certainly from disc to disc within any one person's set, but no certainly yet as to whether it differs from set to set. It seems reasonable to expect the consistency of the product to be across the board, especially when the inconsistency can cause confusion as to the origin of any one track.

doowhatchulike, why are you trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill? Just about every product out there have some inconsistencies from planes to cars to boxes to hamburgers, etc, etc, etc. Jim has already said if you think your GEM is defective to contact SC to rectify the problem.

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