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One of the main purposes of a forum that is geared toward a certain commercial aspect is to increase thought process and awareness of product quality control. Perhaps there are others out there that are not aware of the potential issues this might create. If one person is entitled to reparation due to a product defect or inconsistency, then ALL of them are, and raising awareness should not be squashed by anyone.

I'm not sure that red logos at the end qualify as a defect.

Of course not. A defect would be something that resulted from something that was not intended. One can conclude the RED logos were intended. The question is that if they are consistent, since, as testified by chrisavis, some songs have BLUE PRO logos throughout, and others do not. The context of the entire post in which I used the word defect was a bit more generalized in nature.

I am not sure where you are going with this line of questioning (or what the point actually is). If it's about clearly identifying who is using them legally, then proof of being a GEM licensee isn't in the color of the title screens. It's in the serialized labels you place on your laptop, which ARE consistent (see my signature). The BLUE logo is simply marketing in my mind.

Every observation in and of itself doesn't necessarily have to have a point. Sometimes, mentioning things of this nature may have importance, and then again may not. It is all about stimulating the conversation. Case and point: What purpose would there be in having SOME songs with all "BLUE PRO" logos throughout, and others not? Is there a reason? Is that reason important? May not be to YOU, might be to OTHERS...

I am just being an advocate here...I like to see consistency in the presentation of products to the public.

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Interesting, and I'll tell you why. I may be wrong, but my understanding is that UK's PRS licensing forbids the naming of the artist, as in the case of "In The Style Of...", that SC uses in their U.S based product. IF that is the case, than either there is a violation of of PRS licensing, or the possibility of production in another location ( such as the U.S) of the GEM discs that were only licensed in the UK. Not sure if I have the PRS requirements correct or not, but if I do, there would seem to be a possible licensing violation.

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This thread took a left turn into crazy town with the mention of "quality control". C'mon. The consistency of credit logo color? The grammar of the title screen? Really?

Why is there no emoticon for "straw grasping"?

I have to agree with you Bazza, but only because I don't use the SC anyway, so it means less than nothing to me. Have a blessed day.

The PRS license does not prohibit a "style of" designation on the title card. It prohibits using the artist's name in the title of the disc ("Hits of Pat Boone") or use in a manner that implies sponsorship or approval. The GEM discs don't have any of that.

Zoom artist discs show the "hits of (name artist)" on their cases. Although the actual title may say something like:
Zoom Platinum Artists - Volume 49
then underneath that "Hits Of Buddy Holly Vol 3".

THis is an older disc, maybe that has changed in the last couple years when the allowance of US sales changed.

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1) Well, let's see:

-----------BEGIN QUOTE from PRS license------------------------

3.13 No Repertoire Work may be used in such a way as to imply approval or endorsement by the writer of, or a performer associated with, such a Repertoire Work, or of the content of
the Karaoke Product or the part of the Karaoke Product which includes the Repertoire Work, unless the relevant Member has specifically consented thereto for the purposes of this Agreement


Without prejudice to the generality of the above, any Karaoke Product will be deemed to be in breach of this clause (unless the relevant Member has
specifically consented thereto for the purposes of this Agreement), if:
(a) the product title names featured artists or groups and/or featured composer(s)/writer(s), and/or
(b) the packaging or supporting campaign for any product names or graphically depicts featured artists or groups and/or featured composer(s)/writer(s), and/or
(c) the Karaoke Product includescontent depicting an artist(s) associated with one or more Repertoire Works included on such Karaoke Product (unless the artist(s) or the artist(s)’s management
has consented thereto).
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So, I'm thinking that PRS LIcensing would not allow "In the style of....." without the specific permission of the artist.

Note: While one might see a similar looking page on Sunfly & Zoom, the designation on the Zoom/Sunfly discs to the "artists" is actually nothing of the sort: it is the designation to the "writer" of the song - who also happens to be the artist.

This would be a reason that SC discs made in the U.S. have it, and the GEM discs made in the UK do not.

2) Doowhatchulike's Gem user friend says that some of them do, which would make your statement above incorrect.

If you would be kind enough to supply an explaination? Why do the GEMS mentioned above have it?

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" Disc based and loving it..."

I don't know about the QC or colors, but the title screen is another story, per my post above:
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".....Interesting, and I'll tell you why. I may be wrong, but my understanding is that UK's PRS licensing forbids the naming of the artist, as in the case of "In The Style Of...", that SC uses in their U.S based product. IF that is the case, than either there is a violation of of PRS licensing, or the possibility of production in another location ( such as the U.S) of the GEM discs that were only licensed in the UK. Not sure if I have the PRS requirements correct or not, but if I do, there would seem to be a possible licensing violation."

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Therefore, the comments regarding the title screen may actually be of some importance.

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