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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:55 pm 
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guess they can and have filed separate cases


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:12 pm 
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And...............?

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if they are pirates, great. never heard of any of them unfortunately.

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I think the point was that they have six new individual cases in the entire U.S.A.

More suits.

I'm underwhelmed Hence, ......and.......?

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The "and" is that when the court ordered that SC couldn't lump cases together, many people said that they would never refile them individually due to the cost involved. The link cited is an example that they are doing just that. Given time, you will probably see more.


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maybe this means that the investigations are being done correctly and are pinpointing the real pirates instead of the shotgun approach. would not be to financially sound to individually file if you weren't sure they were more than just a technical infringer. if i am right, i'm behind it. pretty much all i have asked from the beginning.

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How about when will they finish the cases in North Carolina - dragging on for over 2 years at this point - you either have a case or you don't - what's the holdup?


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How about when will they finish the cases in North Carolina - dragging on for over 2 years at this point - you either have a case or you don't - what's the holdup?


The holdup is that the Western District judge transferred the case to the Eastern District, then it took over a year for the Eastern District to decide cross-motions on precisely how to proceed with the case after that point.

I can't make the courts move faster.


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I agree with Paradigm and I am of the opinion that SC had to have some growing pains associated with learning how to do things in this legal area first.

People learn by making mistakes and I have mentioned on other sites that for SC to hire APS, was a GIGANTIC mistake.

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HarringtonLaw wrote:
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How about when will they finish the cases in North Carolina - dragging on for over 2 years at this point - you either have a case or you don't - what's the holdup?


The holdup is that the Western District judge transferred the case to the Eastern District, then it took over a year for the Eastern District to decide cross-motions on precisely how to proceed with the case after that point.

I can't make the courts move faster.


Thank you Harrington - I just know it's very frustrating to the guys here who have done the right thing, seeing those guys not only continuing to run multiple shows each week, but to take shows away from them. There will be a pretty good party around here when they are taken down.


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HarringtonLaw wrote:
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How about when will they finish the cases in North Carolina - dragging on for over 2 years at this point - you either have a case or you don't - what's the holdup?


The holdup is that the Western District judge transferred the case to the Eastern District, then it took over a year for the Eastern District to decide cross-motions on precisely how to proceed with the case after that point.

I can't make the courts move faster.


Why can't a cease and desist order be issued to stop them until the court date?

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How about when will they finish the cases in North Carolina - dragging on for over 2 years at this point - you either have a case or you don't - what's the holdup?


The holdup is that the Western District judge transferred the case to the Eastern District, then it took over a year for the Eastern District to decide cross-motions on precisely how to proceed with the case after that point.

I can't make the courts move faster.


Why can't a cease and desist order be issued to stop them until the court date?


There is no such thing as a "cease and desist order." The court can theoretically order a preliminary injunction, but in practice the Supreme Court has made that nearly impossible to obtain in IP cases.


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HarringtonLaw wrote:
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How about when will they finish the cases in North Carolina - dragging on for over 2 years at this point - you either have a case or you don't - what's the holdup?


The holdup is that the Western District judge transferred the case to the Eastern District, then it took over a year for the Eastern District to decide cross-motions on precisely how to proceed with the case after that point.

I can't make the courts move faster.


Why can't a cease and desist order be issued to stop them until the court date?


There is no such thing as a "cease and desist order." The court can theoretically order a preliminary injunction, but in practice the Supreme Court has made that nearly impossible to obtain in IP cases.


8) I would have to agree with the Supreme Court on this one, SC could go around slapping preliminary injunctions on hosts deprive them of their business, and profits, and maybe not have a case. Then it would be up to the host to have to counter-sue SC for their loses, in the mean time their business has gone South. Oh did I mention we will lift the injunction if you just license our GEM series. I don't think so. Have a legal day.


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I agree with Paradigm and I am of the opinion that SC had to have some growing pains associated with learning how to do things in this legal area first.

People learn by making mistakes and I have mentioned on other sites that for SC to hire APS, was a GIGANTIC mistake.


8) There is an old saying Insane "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". Why did SC continue to use APS and Donna Boris after the Las Vegas mess, and then use them still in California, entering into a recovery agreement with the same dishonest agents? Have an Insane day.


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The Lone Ranger wrote:
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I agree with Paradigm and I am of the opinion that SC had to have some growing pains associated with learning how to do things in this legal area first.

People learn by making mistakes and I have mentioned on other sites that for SC to hire APS, was a GIGANTIC mistake.


8) There is an old saying Insane "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". Why did SC continue to use APS and Donna Boris after the Las Vegas mess, and then use them still in California, entering into a recovery agreement with the same dishonest agents? Have an Insane day.


I normally would not respond to you but I want to point out how ignorant your comment is for the benefit of the readership.

The California case you refer to was filed months before the Las Vegas case.

CA: http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trad ... l/summary/

NV: http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trad ... l/summary/

This proves how recklessly you post misinformative propaganda on these forums with absolutely no cognitive reasoning whatsoever. If anyone took you seriously, they would get what they deserve. Have a Lonely day.

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Insane KJ wrote:
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I agree with Paradigm and I am of the opinion that SC had to have some growing pains associated with learning how to do things in this legal area first.

People learn by making mistakes and I have mentioned on other sites that for SC to hire APS, was a GIGANTIC mistake.


8) There is an old saying Insane "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". Why did SC continue to use APS and Donna Boris after the Las Vegas mess, and then use them still in California, entering into a recovery agreement with the same dishonest agents? Have an Insane day.


I normally would not respond to you but I want to point out how ignorant your comment is for the benefit of the readership.

The California case you refer to was filed months before the Las Vegas case.

CA: http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trad ... l/summary/

NV: http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trad ... l/summary/

This proves how recklessly you post misinformative propaganda on these forums with absolutely no cognitive reasoning whatsoever. If anyone took you seriously, they would get what they deserve. Have a Lonely day.


8) It makes little difference when the California suit was filed, when it became apparent that their agents were not acting in SC's best interests they could have dismissed them from the case, and they didn't. If you know the people representing you are basically crooks and you do nothing about it, doesn't that make you responsible for their actions? Isn't that why SC was counter sued in California ? Have an Insane Day.


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The Lone Ranger wrote:
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I agree with Paradigm and I am of the opinion that SC had to have some growing pains associated with learning how to do things in this legal area first.

People learn by making mistakes and I have mentioned on other sites that for SC to hire APS, was a GIGANTIC mistake.


8) There is an old saying Insane "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". Why did SC continue to use APS and Donna Boris after the Las Vegas mess, and then use them still in California, entering into a recovery agreement with the same dishonest agents? Have an Insane day.


.....and why is it you feel you have to comment on every single case, and throw in a bunch of mumbo jumbo to sidetrack the thread when you have no first-hand knowledge of the cases?

This thread is about cases filed individually against different alleged infringers, using different attorney's in a different state. It has nothing to do with APS, Donna Boris, Las Vegas, California, or dishonest agents.

I (and I hope others) would appreciate if you would try to stick to the thread instead of trying to re-hash the exact same thing over and over and over and bury the intent of the thread. We all know you don't like what SC is doing. We don't need for you to remind us in every thread.

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.....and why is it you feel you have to comment on every single case, and throw in a bunch of mumbo jumbo to sidetrack the thread when you have no first-hand knowledge of the cases?

This thread is about cases filed individually against different alleged infringers, using different attorney's in a different state. It has nothing to do with APS, Donna Boris, Las Vegas, California, or dishonest agents.

I (and I hope others) would appreciate if you would try to stick to the thread instead of trying to re-hash the exact same thing over and over and over and bury the intent of the thread. We all know you don't like what SC is doing. We don't need for you to remind us in every thread.

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Chris, did you also know that Lone will be leaving the KJ business in less than two years, so none of this will really effect him?

Not to mention the fact that he doesn't use SC in his shows.

Also, he only knows of one person in his area who's been approached.

Of course, he's retired from his earlier career and doesn't have to do this, and once he's ready to retire, he'll be set.

I only bring these things up because (a) he didn't mention any of them in his last post and (b) you might have missed the previous 1,745 times he posted them.


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Wow! Condescension and sarcasm in the same post. So unlawyerly! It's no wonder you're having some issues with the judges handling your cases.


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Wow! Condescension and sarcasm in the same post. So unlawyerly! It's no wonder you're having some issues with the judges handling your cases.


Bruce - With the exception of the post count, Harrington posted facts with an underlying tone of sarcasm and condescension that I find duly warranted. Lone's unrelenting reminders of his disdain for SC and SC tactics are known to us all. We don't need to be constantly reminded of his viewpoint. Especially when his comments serve only to reinforce his own opinion and contribute nothing to the actual conversation. Personally I am tired of seeing his interjections derail threads with the negativity. Also, as Harrington pointed out, absolutely none of what Lone talks about impacts him at all, something which Lone himself has admitted to and which he has pointed out to us repeatedly.

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