KARAOKE SCENE MAGAZINE ONLINE! - Is there anyone really making $100,000 a year off KJing? Public Forums Karaoke Discussions Karaoke Legalities & Piracy, etc... Karaoke Scene's Karaoke Forums Home | Contact Us | Site Map  

Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene

   
  * Login
  * Register

  * FAQ
  * Search

Custom Search

Social Networks


premium-member

Offsite Links


It is currently Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:14 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:11 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
I was just wondering how much actual cash in hand a year the best paid are really making. Now not the, I charge x amount, no actually money made. I have played gigs for $1200.00 a night, but only twice in 12 years. So..... actually I only made around $4000 a year. Some years better than others.

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:48 am 
Offline
Extreme Poster
Extreme Poster
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2001 6:55 pm
Posts: 4433
Location: New York City
Been Liked: 757 times
Just for clarification, are you asking "How much did you make (let's say) last year between January 1, 2012 to December 31, 2012?" without getting into the "I charge $xxx per show." type of answers? Or, are you asking "How much money did you make last year after expenses?"


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:24 am 
Offline
Super Extreme
Super Extreme
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2002 4:12 pm
Posts: 7704
Songs: 1
Location: Hollyweird, Ca.
Been Liked: 1089 times
Just the guys selling hard drives make that much per year..


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:32 am 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster

Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:22 am
Posts: 6103
Been Liked: 634 times
8) It depends on how hard you want to work, sometimes I turn away jobs or give them to other hosts that might be a better fit for the particular venue. Currently I work six days a week 10 months out of the year. I could make anywhere from 30 to 40K plus tips. That's why I have to recharge for two months, or I would get burnt out. That is why I'm seriously considering retiring in a couple more years or so. Have a blessed day.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:02 am 
Offline
Extreme Poster
Extreme Poster

Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:59 am
Posts: 3011
Been Liked: 1003 times
As you might imagine, I talk with a lot of KJs, and the financial angle often comes up.

I would expect a $100k-per-year KJ to be pretty rare. Working six days a week, you'd need to clear $333.33 per workday, although you could cut that to $275 if you did an extra show once a week. But that's profit, not gross revenue. And it's every day, day in and day out, making that kind of money.

Multi-rigging would make it easier, but then you've got to have labor that needs to be paid--and if they're good enough to keep a show long-term, there's a good chance they will become your competition instead of your employee.

In the current economy, keeping a minimal track count of quality material, with good sound equipment, and a stable of reliable operators: in order to bring home $100,000 a year for the owner, I estimate a karaoke operation would need to play about 18 bar/restaurant gigs and 2 higher-dollar gigs (weddings, mitzvahs, corporate events) per week.

That's a lot, roughly a thousand shows a year. It would probably require a minimum of four rigs, and virtually all of the owner's work would be in sales, management, and operational support--very little actual karaoke.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:18 am 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster

Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:22 am
Posts: 6103
Been Liked: 634 times
8) That's for 100,000.00 a year James and having the headache of having to manage others, plus the overhead. At 365 days a year, minus 61 day vacation, minus 48 Sundays, I'm somewhere around 256 days of hosting per year. Since I have other sources of income, I still make over six figure income per year. For one host operation I don't do bad, my sweet spot is 150.00 per show some are more some are less, and some I donate to charity. 256 x 150.00 comes out to 38,400 per year plus another 10 to 15% on tips. That comes to $44,160.00 gross, then of course you have to deduct whatever business expenses you have, so the actual net would be less. Have a legal day.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:27 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
cueball wrote:
Just for clarification, are you asking "How much did you make (let's say) last year between January 1, 2012 to December 31, 2012?" without getting into the "I charge $xxx per show." type of answers? Or, are you asking "How much money did you make last year after expenses?"


Got ya. It would be gross for the year Jan 1st to Dec 31st.

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:34 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
The reason I even asked all of you here was I have heard people say they made $300.00 and up per gig. I am thinking to self "Damn, that must be nice to make that kinda money every gig." Then come to find out they only do two gigs a week or month.

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:48 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
So the short answer is a big NO! :|

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:57 am 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster

Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:22 am
Posts: 6103
Been Liked: 634 times
outllawXsound wrote:
So the short answer is a big NO! :|


8) Since the economic downturn I would say it would be very difficult for a host to gross six figure income just off karaoke. If you had a special situation where you were playing at some type of casino and getting over 300.00 per night maybe. Still 30K to 40K and more is not bad for a part-time job. Although for every hour your playing you should be spending time working on your business. Only a host that has other hosts working for him could ever approach the six figure mark. Just my opinion of course. Have a blessed day.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:01 am 
Offline
Advanced Poster
Advanced Poster

Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:04 pm
Posts: 336
Been Liked: 33 times
we have made $100,000(gross) in a year KJ'ing but not in more than 7 years. We do however own 3 systems (and a small party system) and it is a LOT of work. The last year we topped $100,000 gross our net (after expenses) was just around 1/2 that amount.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:18 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
The Lone Ranger wrote:
outllawXsound wrote:
So the short answer is a big NO! :|


8) Since the economic downturn I would say it would be very difficult for a host to gross six figure income just off karaoke. If you had a special situation where you were playing at some type of casino and getting over 300.00 per night maybe. Still 30K to 40K and more is not bad for a part-time job. Although for every hour your playing you should be spending time working on your business. Only a host that has other hosts working for him could ever approach the six figure mark. Just my opinion of course. Have a blessed day.



Yeppers 30-40k still good.

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:26 am 
Offline
Advanced Poster
Advanced Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:24 pm
Posts: 317
Been Liked: 18 times
kjflorida wrote:
we have made $100,000(gross) in a year KJ'ing but not in more than 7 years. We do however own 3 systems (and a small party system) and it is a LOT of work. The last year we topped $100,000 gross our net (after expenses) was just around 1/2 that amount.


How much $$$ do you have invested in karaoke music for those 3 rigs?

_________________
-- Mark


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:28 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
kjflorida wrote:
we have made $100,000(gross) in a year KJ'ing but not in more than 7 years. We do however own 3 systems (and a small party system) and it is a LOT of work. The last year we topped $100,000 gross our net (after expenses) was just around 1/2 that amount.




lots of work. I hear ya. I have only worked smaller towns. IE; less than 35k people. but when I first started 20 year ago, I got paid $275 a night only did week ends. Then went to 5 nights a week, but only good for the summer months. Nobody would have karaoke in the winter. Now the town I just left, bars owners are only paying people that will do a gig for $20.00 to $50.00 a night. One host was doing two shows for $60.00 for both nights. I can only say WOW!

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:30 am 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster

Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 7:09 pm
Posts: 839
Location: Myrtle Beach, SC
Been Liked: 224 times
I made 62,500 three years ago at a club doing karaoke and DJ, but it was at a resort club and they're running 7 nights a week for 10 months, and some nights I worked 6-7 hours, depending on the weather. I split this gig with a partner so I guess if I'd have done the whole deal I'd have exceeded 100,000.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:31 am 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:38 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Kingston, Ok.
Been Liked: 12 times
rickgood wrote:
I made 62,500 three years ago at a club doing karaoke and DJ, but it was at a resort club and they're running 7 nights a week for 10 months, and some nights I worked 6-7 hours, depending on the weather. I split this gig with a partner so I guess if I'd have done the whole deal I'd have exceeded 100,000.




I like this.

_________________
Still love to sing!


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:33 am 
Offline
Advanced Poster
Advanced Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:24 pm
Posts: 317
Been Liked: 18 times
rickgood wrote:
I made 62,500 three years ago at a club doing karaoke and DJ, but it was at a resort club and they're running 7 nights a week for 10 months, and some nights I worked 6-7 hours, depending on the weather. I split this gig with a partner so I guess if I'd have done the whole deal I'd have exceeded 100,000.


How much do you have invested in karaoke music?

I'm just curious of those who have topped the $100k mark, just as I asked kjflorida above.

_________________
-- Mark


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:10 am 
Offline
Advanced Poster
Advanced Poster

Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:04 pm
Posts: 336
Been Liked: 33 times
Insane KJ wrote:
kjflorida wrote:
we have made $100,000(gross) in a year KJ'ing but not in more than 7 years. We do however own 3 systems (and a small party system) and it is a LOT of work. The last year we topped $100,000 gross our net (after expenses) was just around 1/2 that amount.


How much $$$ do you have invested in karaoke music for those 3 rigs?


Over the last 19 years in business my company has spent $163,698.00 on DISCS, that is more than our house cost. Some of that amount has been recovered by sales of duplicate discs. We buy in bulk keep what we need and sell off the duplicates.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:22 am 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster

Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 7:09 pm
Posts: 839
Location: Myrtle Beach, SC
Been Liked: 224 times
Insane KJ wrote:
rickgood wrote:
I made 62,500 three years ago at a club doing karaoke and DJ, but it was at a resort club and they're running 7 nights a week for 10 months, and some nights I worked 6-7 hours, depending on the weather. I split this gig with a partner so I guess if I'd have done the whole deal I'd have exceeded 100,000.


How much do you have invested in karaoke music?

I'm just curious of those who have topped the $100k mark, just as I asked kjflorida above.


My partner had all the music, he's been in the business since the early 90s and he had SC bricks and foundations, plus older pioneer, dk, mm and chart buster that he paid premium price for when it was new, so I'll bet he easily had spent $35 to $40 k over that span of time. We picked up some other newer stuff after we partnered up, including phm subscription, but less than
$1000 for that I think. So to answer your question, close to $40k.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:01 pm 
Offline
Extreme Poster
Extreme Poster
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:41 pm
Posts: 4094
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
Been Liked: 309 times
Mid 40s to mid 50s working 6-7 nights a week, depending on the year and number of special events.

_________________
You can be strange but not a stranger


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 121 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Privacy Policy | Anti-Spam Policy | Acceptable Use Policy Copyright © Karaoke Scene Magazine
design & hosting by Cross Web Tech