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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:52 am 
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Is sharing your recordings of yourself singing karaoke tracks with your friends and I would guess the whole world on such media outlets, is it legal? Do you need permission rights? Is anyone going after them? Might be something to think about.... Are we getting into a gray area that is not covered. And the backlash from that would carry over into home only users?????

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Well, when the rights holders see something on Youtube that is theirs, and they say something, youtube usually just removes it. I don't believe that anyone can go after you for posting your songs on youtube.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:05 am 
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Well, when the rights holders see something on Youtube that is theirs, and they say something, youtube usually just removes it. I don't believe that anyone can go after you for posting your songs on youtube.




I hope that be the case, but? Is it? :dontknow:
How about facebook and such?

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That's great!!! Thanks

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If somebody has actually signed up to make money with their youtube, you can see where copyrited material could really get you in trouble. I've been putting karaoke on youtube for a few years. On many of my videos, they point out that I have third party material, but unless I receive further notice, nothing has to be done. Sometimes a video will not be able to be viewed in certain countries, including the US.


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If somebody has actually signed up to make money with their youtube, you can see where copyrited material could really get you in trouble. I've been putting karaoke on youtube for a few years. On many of my videos, they point out that I have third party material, but unless I receive further notice, nothing has to be done. Sometimes a video will not be able to be viewed in certain countries, including the US.


"Third party material" That is why I am asking the question. Can we get in trouble over it? Does CB, All Star, SC have a say? Are we infringing on their rights?

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If somebody has actually signed up to make money with their youtube, you can see where copyrighted material could really get you in trouble. I've been putting karaoke on youtube for a few years. On many of my videos, they point out that I have third party material, but unless I receive further notice, nothing has to be done. Sometimes a video will not be able to be viewed in certain countries, including the US.


"Third party material" That is why I am asking the question. Can we get in trouble over it? Does CB, All Star, SC have a say? Are we infringing on their rights?


Feel free to check, but the producers of the CD+G disk only have permission to press disks.

They do not own the copyright.

So, CB, All Star, Etc. have no standing in court for that.


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Unless the producers actually buy the copyright.. :mrgreen:


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Ok so the only people we have infringed upon are the people that actually make the music, correct?

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Ok so the only people we have infringed upon are the people that actually make the music, correct?


IF you do not show the trademark of the CD+G producers. :mrgreen:


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So we are doing something illegal ( in a small way ) by recording and posting for all the world to see, correct?

Got ya Thanks.

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So we are doing something illegal ( in a small way ) by recording and posting for all the world to see, correct?

Got ya Thanks.


We and several million other people.........like I said, it's worse to try & profit from others' works. You can't even wear a Bear's jersey in a picture/video & put it anywhere for someone to see.


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Unless the producers actually buy the copyright.. :mrgreen:


The karaoke producers do own the copyright to their renditions ie: "Not recorded by the original artists." However, the manu's do need to obtain a Mechanics License for the song to make their renditions for sale.

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Unless the producers actually buy the copyright.. :mrgreen:


The karaoke producers do own the copyright to their renditions ie: "Not recorded by the original artists." However, the manu's do need to obtain a Mechanics License for the song to make their renditions for sale.


Yep I understand that, Thanks


Wonder when they will get around to suing people for that?

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outllawXsound wrote:
So we are doing something illegal ( in a small way ) by recording and posting for all the world to see, correct?

Got ya Thanks.


We and several million other people.........like I said, it's worse to try & profit from others' works. You can't even wear a Bear's jersey in a picture/video & put it anywhere for someone to see.


Interesting analogy..
U of Alabama is engaged in a trademark suit now, and it may go to the Supreme Court.

Something about, "You can't paint our Pictures of Our Jerseys" or we sue you.

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Here's what I got from Micky.



I recently asked myself the same question, so here's the answer from Zoom

You’d need clearance from two parties for each song:

1) The record company (that’s us if you’re using our tracks)
2) The music publisher that controls the publishing rights to the songs you want to use (EMI, Universal, Sony etc.)

We charge a fee of £30 British Pounds per tracks to use our recordings in a project. That allows you to make unlimited physical copies and also sell/stream digital copies. It doesn’t cover the publishing aspect though.



Clears the air a little......

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Evidently, you're another one who asks a question, then tells us the answer........ :lol: you'll fit right in here..... :)


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johnny reverb wrote:
Evidently, you're another one who asks a question, then tells us the answer........ :lol: you'll fit right in here..... :)




Thanks. :beermates: But that was the answer that Micky posted on my other thread and it seemed to fit here as well.

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