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No answer from Chris or Timberlea. I'm thinking that even "Cheerleaders" are having trouble with SC's "1:1" wishes and downloading.

Can't be both, but I'm certain some who claim to be "1:1" are also downloaders- Download hosts have discussed it here.

Anyone care to show some courage and step up?

You know what? I think this is good for a new thread.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Maybe they are ignoring most of what you write these days.

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You mean what I have said all along that one company karaoke manu can't enforce it's will on the whole industry, at least effectively? That they are limited in their resources and therefore have to pick an choose their battles carefully? That is why there are only at most 400 certified hosts in all the U.S. What happens while they are moving at their snail's pace? Don't they clean out an area move on and the illegal operations start up again behind them? James has stated that even 10% compliance would help SC, that will still leave 90% of the industry non-certified. I still don't see how anything meaningful is going to come out of this process. Without the resources to compel industry wide compliance I don't see how SC will ever get the upper hand over the pirates, except in a few small areas, of the country. Have a blessed day.

Did you say something Insane?

Since we are ODB we don't do 1:1 or download. I don't even download at home so your question to me is moot.

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I think Lone Wolf and KJ Florida may have hit the nail on the head. Better education of venues (and there being a lower number of total venues to deal with) and more enthusiasm and effort put into it given the lower popuation concentration within Oregon in general.

And maybe all those magazine deliveries I made really DID have some effect!!

OK, back to the bickering!!

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Sort of like going after the employers that hire illegal workers, rather than going after the workers themselves. With no jobs they will simply return to the place they came from, right? What Romney called self deportation.

And then maybe CANADA!

I wish they would come to Canada. I would welcome them as would many other legal hosts.

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Timberlea, YOU are the one that said POSSESSION of the discs was the only indication of ownership, so I asked your opinion. How do you feel about pro-SC methodology KJS who also use downloads without owning the corresponding discs?

Hopefully you will answer in the new thread.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

I don't see how anything other than the original receipt could be proof of ownership - be it a disc or a download. If just having the discs is proof of ownership, who can positively say one didn't steal the entire disc collection from a store and are using them commercially. They are in possession of the discs - they must own them, even though they didn't pay for them. A receipt from a download site should be just as good as having a disc in possession. I can show a receipt for EVERY downloaded track I have purchased - on the spot mind you. I can do the same for every disc I've bought for the last 20 years as well, it would take me a while to compile them all since they are all filed away.

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Show me anywhere where I said possession of discs was the only way to show ownership of music. That would be a pretty stupid statement. I have said media shifting without permission is illegal but never said the only proof of ownership is possession of discs. I have no problem with the way SC protects its TM.

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Timberlea, I got my impression from your post below:

Well if an original disc is lost, stolen, sold, or destroyed, then you no longer own it, just like anything else you own that got lost, stolen, sold, or destroyed. You no longer own it.

If you meant something else, please explain......

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Media shifting is not illegal, it is the violation of the policy of one company out of hundreds. Show me one other media company who prosecutes their customers for this activity.

I only know of one Rick, and that is why I don't carry the product out of protest of their policies. Have a blessed day.

So, since you like to keep pointing out the fact that you don't carry the SC product "out of protest of their policies," does that also mean you refuse to sing from any SC tracks when you go out to someone else's show (out of the same protest)?

I'm so busy working six days a week a rarely go to other karaoke shows. My one day off is Sunday and I usually rest that day and go to church. Most of the songs I sing are on DK, CB, or Zoom labels, sometimes MM, Legends, or Monster Hits, Mr. Entertainer, etc. there is just so much material out here. I like to do the songs nobody else does, even a Sunfly now and then, or SBI. Have a blessed day cue.

P.S. Even at my shows if the rotation is too large I take myself off as a courtesy to my patrons, I'm always the last to sing before we go around again.

I didn't ask you what brands you sing from. I asked you if you refuse to sing from any SC track (if the KJ happens to use a SC track for your song request) when you go to someone else's show.

This doesn't happen since I use my own discs, and only patronize hosts that have the ability to play discs. I hope this answers your question. Have a blessed day.