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I do find it hard to swallow that they wouldn't at least buy them, especially when they get calls regularly asking if they have any. They buy cd's and dvd's - ever vcr tapes and all those they usually have to end up selling in lots like 5 for $10 sales - THOSE have no resale value.

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It could be that the pawnshops are aware that there is a lot of knockoff karaoke discs, and they don't want to be selling illegally produced products. Just like a pawn shop can't sell stolen jewelery, or they are fences then not legitimate business's. One thing I agree with Bazza on is a host thinking someday they will be able to sell their discs and get back some money are really kidding themselves. Just like selling out a hosting business people will want to buy parts of the business and you really can't sell the gig string you have built up over the years. Once you are gone it is up to the venue owner to hire the next host. The purpose of the discs has changed once it was a necessary tool needed by the host, now it is used mainly to prove you are legal. Things have changed greatly in this industry over the last 20 years and they will change more in the next 20, if their is still a karaoke industry. Things might evolve to where people don't go out much in the future, and entertain at home, especially if new Federal guidelines are imposed about legal limits for drinking and driving.

"Things might evolve to where people don't go out much in the future, and entertain at home, especially if new Federal guidelines are imposed about legal limits for drinking and driving."

Why? There are options out there from taking a cab to using a designated driver. As long as you're spending money a venue won't care what it is on. Most people who sing karaoke usually want an audience so that means a public venues, not home.

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Up in Canada or in high density downtown areas maybe things won't change tim. In rural areas and places like Texas and California where everything is spread out changes in the legal drinking limit will have a negative impact on bar type venues. People aren't going to take chances and stay closer to home. As far as audience you haven't been to some of these California block parties have you?

And you can't do a designated driver - why? Sounds like making excuses to me.

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I'm not allowed to drink anymore due to health reasons, so a designated driver is not a problem for me tim? Many people when they go to an event where there is drinking either don't have designated drivers or the chosen person sometime let's the group down, by having a drink. Some people can use the designated driver option the majority for whatever the reason is don't. Most of the venues I play everybody is drinking and most are driving, that is just the way it is.

^^ I've been told it's tough to stop drinking..

Not true..


I stop every night..


And I find CD+G disks all over Hollyweird..

Lone Ranger you have more excuses for things than Heinz has varieties. In my career, I had many people give me and/or the judge a lot of excuses for their actions, but they failed.

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And I suppose that you have already consulted with Dionne Warwick on this one????

And some of those people who are drinking only have 1 or 2 drinks and then stop for the rest of the night. They order food or munchies. They switch to soda or coffee. They may have had a drink with everyone else, but are no where close to being impaired or intoxicated.

Why would I need an excuse tim I'm not the one drinking and driving?

If the new federal standard come into play .05 will be the legal limit for intoxication. Unless you are a very large person it wouldn't take much to have someone blow .05. In Arizona I have a friend who happens to be a long distance truck driver taken in off duty and he blew .05. He thought the sheriff would cut him loose, not, they tagged him with reckless driving not DUI. It still amounted to the same thing they took his license.

So your friend was driving when he shouldn't have been. His fault, nobody elses. Youtried to make it sound like he was the victim instead of the perpetrator. Like I said, excuses.

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The pawnshops in my area have not been buying karaoke discs for over 10 years. When my stuff was stolen in 1999, I contacted all the local pawn shops with info, and they told me back then they don't buy anything karaoke - reason - no resale value. And to this day, nothing has changed. Maybe just the area, but has nothing to do with anything else as far as I can see.

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Which reinforces my point that karaoke material only has resale value to those that are in the business legally which is about 5 to 10% of the hosts. Besides someone in the business or getting into the business who else would buy it, unless they are setting up something for their home use? When you say it has no resale value you are not talking about the speakers, amps, or mics that would have some value, are you Lonnie? If karaoke product has no resale value, where is all the value coming from for discs? The only place it could be coming from is the need to have the discs prove a host is 1:1 compliant. So Bazza is right if hosts are thinking they are going to cash in on their disc collection they are out of luck.

I don't believe I said he was a victim, he was evidently in the wrong place, at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing. I was using him to illustrate a point about the .05 level. This guy is over 6 feet tall and weighs a good 280 lbs, he had a couple of beers and still blew .05. Under the new guidelines a normal size person couldn't even do one drink in a 4 hour period and not be DUI under that standard. He wasn't legally intoxicated by the Arizona standard, but the sheriff still found a reason to cite him. To the sheriff's thinking any amount of alcohol in a driver's system constitutes reckless driving. I wasn't there and I don't know the particulars of the situation. Just using this situation to show it won't take much to make a DUI arrest using this new Federal standard, and this will effect the bar business and karaoke hosting, if it goes into law.

See you, as many others, have the belief you can only be charged with impaired driving if you are above the .08 limit. Well that is absolutely wrong. The .08 is a separate charge. If you look at your law, you'll see there is a charge of Impaired Driving and a charge of driving while over .08. You can have .01 in your system and that could make you impaired enough to drive due to your personal circumstances.

Your friend wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time, he shouldn't have been in the driver's seat, period.

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If you are saying tim that even two beers is too much then where does that leave the bar business? Patrons can't even have one drink or run the risk of being impaired enough to drive, at least in the opinion of the arresting officer, by your example. To a certain extent is is timing and location also tim. How many people drive that shouldn't and don't get caught, while others happen to be at a venue being staked out by the local police? I remember one sport's bar that was in a shopping center, the local police stopped and parked by the doughnut shop, their favorite hangout, and wait for the bar to let out. It is posted no left turn out of the driveway and sure enough someone would turn left. It was like shooting fish in a barrel, if they were not DUI they at least made an illegal turn, and then there was probable cause for the checking for DUI as well.

Well, I agree with the pawn shops and wouldn't bother going.. DO find them direct from the owner- yard syard/garage sales and drop-offs to Goodwill.

In all fairness, of the 2-30, most are still in a bulk box, though I use maybe 40-50 of what I've found.

Also, you are right in saying that many are crappy "home" brands, but luckily, many are also "big" name ( SC, CB, Pocket, etc..) MULTIPLEX Like the Artist and Star Series because they are great for practicing by home singers. Sure you get less songs per disc, but if you are paying anywhere from 0.50 to MAYBE 2.oo, who cares?

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Yep except for that one, I don't even find crappy home brands. No one sells them used. I get people bringing me discs and offering to sell them at my shows (yes original) and I will buy them there. Even had some people flat out give me their discs after they got bored with the songs they sung and bought new discs to sing (love when that happens) since they only sing at our show, they know where to sing them.

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I'd say less than 10. CD's will easily be antiques by then and collecting dust in the basement with the once valuable, now worthless VHS tapes.