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I kind of disagree. If the company doesn't cancel the signal, and the the STANDARD UNMODIFIED EQUIPMENT( as opposed to a homebuilt de-scrambler- MAYBE) picks it up and displays it- only the providers' fault. Won't hold up in court.

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hey, i pay $20.00 a month and get 200,000 karaoke tracks on my pc.

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Then you are probably one of the lucky ones. I remember the 2 AM commercials for Clear TV, and they built it up to sound like you don't need to subscribe to Cable or Dish or Satellite, etc..., when in fact, it is no different than a regular Rabbit Ear antenna (it will pick up whatever broadcast stations are within its radius). See reviews...
http://stopthecap.com/2012/04/02/clear- ... consumers/

http://wafflesatnoon.com/2013/06/20/clear-tv-review/

It is a corporate account.

Not so much now but in the past the cable company was pumping it's signal so hard that all you had to do was lay a cable close to the box and it would pick up most of the channels.

I'm not saying you hook up anything to their cable. When they shut the service off they didn't disconnect it from you house and you didn't disconnect it from your TV. Actually when I read my agreement I am responsible for all "IN HOUSE WIRING" they will provide it up to the box on the wall and after that it's all mine (at&t is the same way), so if they don't disconnect it from their box it's their fault if the signal enters my house without my permission as I told them to "CANCEL THE SERVICE". You can believe that the Electric, Water or Gas companies don't leave you hooked up...around here they pull all the meters when you disconnect thus having "NO WAY" to get their stuff.

Now back to the original discussion
I'd be happy with air transmissions if I could get the channels I wanted. I think that for the distance from the transmitter to you house makes all the difference and then there are those cities that don't have local transmitters and like Chris if you live on the wrong side of the hill to bad. I don't know much about any of those other services and of late am not home to watch live TV anyway....thank God for DVR's.

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This is kinda the line used back in the day with Satellite dishes when the signal was unencrypted. "Hey, they are beaming it into my yard, I'm just picking it up". This would be arguable if the signal was in the clear, but when you have to take the extra step to crack/bypass/hack encryption, the courts have shows this is theft of service.



Yes but the power is still at your meter box. On the side of your house. On your property. But that doesnt mean you can go tie into it, even though it's being "pumped" right to your house.

Cue, yes and no. Yes, it's the same as a rabbit ears in regard to the channels that it picks up. No, because it seems to pick up those channels so much better, with less freezes and de- rezzes.

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Actually, you can, per those of us that also use solar or alternative power. By this I mean that if one were to produce more electricity than needed from the power companies, said companies are obligated BY LAW to compensate the homeowner for the overage.

Adding to that- now my local power company ( PSE&G) is pushing for homeowners to find alternative power! They will even add financial stimulus.( I can go off the grid anytime). Why? because they know that the power grid is outdated and there has no money allocated for infrastructure. The grid is WAY off rating ( not up to standard for current usage) being built more than 70 years ago, with one third the population and one tenth the power requirements.

I will re-state what I have posted before. Anyone who owns a home and doesn't have a generator hookup or windmill, or a solar power source is living in a dream world.

I have a 400w windmill, solar panels connected to a battery storage/inverter system, and a modified generator ( can easily be reset to run on natural gas, propane, gasoline, or deisel). I would also state that generators built to run on natural gas from a public company ONLY are kind of a goof. Yes, natural gas is available during a blackout. However, if the blackout goes on long enough ( at least a week, maybe more in some areas), the the compression and pumping equipment for it will crap out. That being said, a homeowner can store a good amount of propane, and- if knowledgeable enough- at least switch to that.

If one does not want to spend a lot of money, one can get an 1800 watt solar system that includes panels, battery storage, and inverters for less than $1500.

Got a couple of cheap 1000 watt generators, and would like to piggyback them and then hook them to your house? You CAN. Honda, among others, sells an AC combiner kit that will bring frequency/phase into alignment for parallel A/C connection.

For hooking to the house: Yes, you can pull off the outside meter and clip to the leads, but if you don't know what you are doing you will fry yourself. The socket hookup takes about 20 minutes, with a special plate ( around $100 if you don't make it yourself) for your breaker box. Then, turn off all non-essential breakers to limit load. Easy.

Really broke? Get a 1000 watt cheapy generator. it will run your fridge, heat, 1 tv, and a light or two.

OK, done. Bazza icked my debate-starter ( He meanie went and AGREED with me- I HATE that ) , so I figured it was OK to go off the topic that I started...

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The only thing I can think of is, maybe it has a better power booster within that enables it to pick up the digital stations with less freezing/pixelation.

I'm not 100% sure, but all of the channels that I get (except the local channels) are all FTA (Free To Air) channels. I've been told I can get all of those channels, and then some, with a simple satellite set up.

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You can all free to air channels (especially local) with nothing but an antenae ( no satellite needed) as long as you are within about a 30 mile range of the station, and either your TV is digital, or you have a digital converter box (around $20, or less if you used the government cards sent to all households that asked) with a non-digital TV..

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No, you cant. Follow the conversation. "Net Metering" laws have nothing to do with power at a disconnected service point. You cannot tie into it on your own. You still must be a customer of the electric company in order for them to buy back your excess electricity.

If you disconnect your service as Lone Wolf described above, you no longer have a right to that power. Lone Wolf was making the comparison that Cable TV is still being "pumped to your house" even after you disconnect service. My point, was that electricity is still "being pumped to your house" as well, right to your house, on your property. But that doesnt mean you can go use as much as you want.

I think you have FTA (Free-To-Air) mixed up with OTA (Over-The-Air). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-air

While OTA is technically FTA, I'm talking about the "cable" networks (the ones that don't broadcast their signal OTA), for instance these stations available at 28 degrees/East: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fr ... _28%C2%B0E

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When the electric company comes out and removes the meter "YES" the power is still pumped to you house, (on their side of the meter terminals), but it has been disconnected from your main box and there for you have no power, when the cable company disconnects your service they don't do any disconnecting of anything, everything is still in place and it is still being pumped INTO your house...it does not stop outside like the electric does, it flows freely into YOUR cable.

OOPS gotta run as I'm about to transmit (via amateur radio) to a NASA satellite (Juno) getting its slingshot effect off the earth.

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When I cancelled cable, they did physically come out & open their box on the street & unplugged the cable that ran to my house. There is NO signal running to my house through the cable.

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Do you know that for sure though? Did you do an auto-program on a newer digital television using a built in descrambler? Because just hooking it into your TV is not enough.

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I know it for fact, I was out there watching them when they did it. But just to confirm what I already know, I did hook up the cable to my tv which has a digital converter - no signal!

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They don't do that here anymore. They can turn cable on & off online. If they disconnect it at the road, they have to come back out and connect it.

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I was about to say the same thing. They disconnected mine at the pole.