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I'm not saying you can't use the product Chris, you can still use CB discs, there is simply no way currently to certify any CB product, since a new auditing system has not been put in place. I can still use my DK but there is no company to vouch for the authenticity or to certify the product currently. Is Gretchen the expert on all things pertaining to CB? I thought she was a former CB employee that now works for DTE. You can still use your 12000+Drive, hell you paid for it. As far as asking CB's permission though I think we are a bit past that point. There is also that nagging question if PR/DTE will continue to honor prior purchases of CB product.

Did you bother to check?

It would have had that effect if the coin of the realm was still discs. You know and I know it isn't. The function of the disc has changed from the primary means of storage of karaoke tracks, to proving that a hosts HD library is 1:1 compliant. There is no reason for discs unless the host is still disc based. I agree totally with Bazza when he says discs are outdated. That hosts who feel the discs have some kind of value other than auditing purposes are mistaken. Once these legal process manus quit their suits what little value the discs maintain will fall right through the floor.

As a disc-based host, I can attest that discs have value to me. Some of y'all may not like 'em, and that's good for you, but they work just fine for me and I've been working at least three shows a week for 10 years now.

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-Chris

ps..... How long will is take The Lone Ranger to refute the above statement?

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Me too.

I'm not the one making all these statements about whether they're legit or allowed to be used or whatever about the CB sets, and putting the "Fear of God" in everyone's mind and soul... YOU ARE!!! Now, instead of answering my question with a sarcastic question back, why don't you do some research before you insert your foot any further down your throat?

Edit: I just changed 1 word in the above text.

i see his point on this one.
PR suing hosts for using CB material on a computer. the 12,000+ drive is no more legit, legal, certified, or whatever word you wish to use than my rips from CDG.
they see you using CB from a computer you are a pirate and thief whether it is the 12,00+ collection or not.

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Has PR sued any KJ that is using a CB Hard Drive?

-Chris

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Really Chris has PR sued in any really meaningful way any KJ's? To date they have how many suits settled? They have one old suit that was settled out of court started by CB and finished by PR. They have the suit that is still dragging through the court system in Arizona, in which many of the defendants have been dismissed. Then there is the mass suit filed in Tennessee recently. Not really much of a track record is it? According to some they are just getting started, and they are way behind even SC's feeble attempts to rein in the pirate problem. It is still to early to tell if they will sue a KJ using a CB 12,000 + HD or not.

The only one's that should be afraid cue are the evil doers, right? If a host has been buying his product legally then he should have nothing to fear. In a perfect world the host or hostess would have nothing to fear, the manus are the one's drumming up the fear of a suit. It is the fear of suits and maybe being named in a suit that is what is driving sales of SC and old CB product. I don't have the market cornered on sarcasm. I don't see why I should be the one running around having to prove everything to everyone. I see plenty of other members of this forum making statements with little or nothing to back them up. I am entitled to my opinion. That is ok in 4 more days I will be on extended vacation, and you can find someone else to find fault with. It will be interesting to see how all of this works out over the next year. Whether the legal process manus implode or not, guess it doesn't make much difference since they can be brought back to life, like CB seems to have done.

Granted, you're entitled to your opinion, but when you start spewing things out as fact, expect to be called on it. That is what you have been doing. As for your reference to other members on this forum, I addressed YOU, so quit trying to deflect a direct question by putting the focus on others. You might as well just go back to talking about Communism and ancient Rome instead.

sorry....repeating a previous post

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I do remember reading it on a couple of forums, but it wasn't directed toward end users, but rather retailers and distributors. If someone is selling them on e-bay ( I've read posts that it's the Stovalls, but who knows....) I see no problem with it as long as they are factory made.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Nope, it doesn't support it, but it also supplies absolutely no facts to dispute it.

The original audits were supposedly for one year. That would make Lone Ranger's statement factual on it's own. However, CB is technically gone ( though actually sorta divided up), which makes any audit by CB moot and worthless.

If you disagree, feel free to support your statement....or let it go.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Nope. What Gretchen SAYS is irrelevant. As a business person you KNOW that only signed documentation counts, a since Gretchen does not work for Chartbuster, whose trademark is now owned by PR ( The Stovalls) she CAN'T document it.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Yup, me three. Original manufacturers' disc based hosts can pretty much do as they please= one of the benefits on a very long list.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

It might be drivel to you, but you still seem to remember what I write, don't you?

Yes I do. When you REFUSE TO HONESTLY ANSWER A DIRECT QUESTION, and choose to DEFLECT the focus onto others, then EVERYTHING YOU POST IS DRIVEL... your word, not mine.

Then you should follow your own advice and refrain from stating the CB 12000+ drive isn't valid for use. You really have no information that is valid. You are speculating and thus causing confusion to the casual reader here.

-Chris

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