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You are speculating and thus causing confusion to the casual reader here.

Then you should follow your own advice and refrain from stating the CB 12000+ drive isn't valid for use. You really have no information that is valid. You are speculating and thus causing confusion to the casual reader here.

-Chris

By all means use it if you want. All I'm saying is if your want a 100% guarantee that PR or some other company might want you to do some explaining don't be shocked. Currently there is no system in place to verify any CB product. Whether the material is valid or not means little to me or most hosts. It is only important to the hosts that place importance on it.

Again, speculation and for that matter, FUD. They do have a process in place because I inquired about it. You even posted here on Karaoke Scene about the audit cost and the 1 day certification so even you know there is a process.

Seriously.....you should really check yourself before you click Submit.

-Chris

Yes I do. When you REFUSE TO HONESTLY ANSWER A DIRECT QUESTION, and choose to DEFLECT the focus onto others, then EVERYTHING YOU POST IS DRIVEL... your word, not mine.

A one day audit is not worth bothering about. The real way to make sure you are not bothered by PR is to subscribe to Cloud. That is the whole reason for the renewal of this legal process of PR/WWDE/CB. Fear of a suit drives sales aka subscriptions. That is the only reason for it. There is no pretense that production of new material will happen, like SC has tried for so long to sell. This is just other companies trying to resurrect the dead body of CB for their own gain. Nice touch at Halloween.

It might be drivel to you...

I said it was drivel to you.

I love how you gloss over the fact that you are completely wrong and send this off into the weeds.

-Chris

host/venue has no current certification (one day cert only, does not continue to the next day)

i'm willing to listen to another definition of "certification is good for that day only".

***UPDATE***

I spoke to Gretchen yesterday.

The Piracy Recovery, LLC / Digitrax definition of a "Vetted KJ" is someone that subscribes to the Karaoke Cloud or the monthly hits program. That is how you get on the Vetted KJ list.

If you have discs, you can request an audit. There is a charge for the audit. However, there is no "1 Year" certification as there was in the past. The "certification" will state something similar to "We verify that as of this date XX/XX/XXXX that the library is certified". They do not have a variance process like what Sound Choice offers, just a one time audit. They do not provide for nor accept any means of ongoing certification so if there were a significant change in your Chartbuster collection that you felt needed to be reported/audited you would have to go through another paid for audit.

Based on the information provided by Gretchen yesterday, I DO NOT intend to go through an audit at this time. I think it is unfortunate that the "Vetted KJ" list is limited to those that subscribe, but I understand the reasoning behind it.

-Chris

8) So if Chris thinks it is not worth going through the audit process, why would other hosts? I also understand the reasoning behind this approach, the only way a host can be sure to avoid a suit is to subscribe to Cloud, and payoff the various companies that now make up CB.

Subscribing to the cloud doesn't necessarily protect you from a suit. Subscribing to the cloud doesn't mean the person isn't stealing a bunch of other Chartbuster material. Digitrax does not provide access to the entire back catalog of Chartbuster material so it is entirely feasible that someone could subscribe to the Cloud *AND* be stealing other Chartbuster material. Just like it is entirely feasible for someone to have a GEM *AND* be stealing other Sound Choice material.

So once again....you are wrong.

Please don't tell me you are wrong about retiring......

-Chris

Chris if the host or hostess is subscribing that is a sale, PR/DTE/WWDE/CB isn't going to dig any deeper. Just like when you subscribe there is no need for an audit. If a host is licensing GEM there is no need for SC to check any further, unless they are running multiple rigs.

What is wrong is to think once the manus get their pay off they are going to keep coming back to someone who is already paying the protection money. They are going to move on to the next mark.

Chris, keep in mind that everything Lone Ranger just said is a FACT, because LONE RANGER CALLED UP THE SOURCE AND VERIFIED EVERYTHING SINGLE WORD OF THIS.

NOT!!!!

TONGUE LODGED VERY DEEPLY IN CHEEK


Now THIS is just YOUR OPINION The rest is what you seemed to have presented as FACT (or, as you put it, DRIVEL (your given word to me, not mine)... since you refuse to verify what you are saying, and like to pass it along as if you are some sort of expert authority on all of this.

Chris if the host or hostess is subscribing that is a sale, PR/DTE/WWDE/CB isn't going to dig any deeper. Just like when you subscribe there is no need for an audit. If a host is licensing GEM there is no need for SC to check any further, unless they are running multiple rigs. What is wrong is to think once the manus get their pay off they are going to keep coming back to someone who is already paying the protection money. They are going to move on to the next mark.

Why so you guys beat each other up constantly over legal matters? Pretty much everything that is said is almost the same exact things you've already said in other threads. Life is too short to constantly debate the same things, over and over.