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billwilliams1989
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:06 am |
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certainly seems like there is a difference of opinion here, but at least the general pov is that the majority of people dont really care and just want to have a laugh, so i think to begin with i will stick with the cabled mics and see how we go.
I too have UHF Citronic mics that cost me about £100, so good to know they should be ok should i want to give them a try
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leopard lizard
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:36 am |
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I do that experiment every show--I've got a nice corded mic put out and a set of cheapie wireless and the singers get to choose. Some want the fun of mobility over sound. Others want what has become known as "the good mic." But oddly enough, some of the best singers will use both, depending on their mood.
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mrmarog
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:48 am |
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I have 3 Shure Beta58 wireless mics, and I get asked all the time which is the best!! They are all identical in appearance.
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Brian A
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:14 am |
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mrmarog wrote: I have 3 Shure Beta58 wireless mics, and I get asked all the time which is the best!! They are all identical in appearance. Same here. 3 beta mics, identical in appearance & performance, yet whichever mic I choose to sing the next singer will insist on using it too. They think it’s better because it was my ‘preferred mic’. Go figure.
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mrmarog
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:19 am |
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Brian A wrote: mrmarog wrote: I have 3 Shure Beta58 wireless mics, and I get asked all the time which is the best!! They are all identical in appearance. Same here. 3 beta mics, identical in appearance & performance, yet whichever mic I choose to sing the next singer will insist on using it too. They think it’s better because it was my ‘preferred mic’. Go figure. Brian what they can't piece together is that we know how to get the most out of most any mic.
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MADPROAUDIO
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:19 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:45 am Posts: 174 Location: Cleveland, Ohio (US) Been Liked: 37 times
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There are many factors involved in what direction you take and both are positive steps either way you look at it.
Yes, there is always the chance of someone walking off with the mic and believe it or not. It has more to do with the environment, how the host has the system set up, and how they control the singers. So I would not place too much importance in factoring direction based upon the chances of someone walking off with the mic.
As far as corded vs wireless. Pros and Cons to both sides. If I could always use corded mics, I would as you get better quality for the money you spend as wireless mic technology eats up most of the budget. Example; We have a $89 Peavey PVM44 mic that we absolutely love. and if we were to try and get a comparable quality in a wireless mic, we would have to use a $300 single wireless to accomplish that most likely.
Wireless clearly is more popular for shows. Our company resides in an old 1940's bar that was converted into our office/shop and the 900sq ft main space of the bar is now a vintage display area / café / with a little stage in the corner. Both corded and wireless are used there because it never goes anywhere else and we are able to gage how many people like which ones. The corded mic they use clearly is better than the wireless set up on the stage. Yet many of the singers prefer wireless. If I were to go onto that stage. I personally like leaning against a dj chair, having a nice clutch release mic stand and sing with the corded mic.
In reality. Perception is the ruler of most things. That's why you have many different opinions. One person mentioned going cheap because of the drunks. This also depends upon the reality you live in. If I were to go down to the House of Blues and set up a system for karaoke. I would be literally embarrassed if I attempted to walk in there with cheap equipment. Yet if I were to go to the neighborhood bar that has a bunch of smoke saturated, booze smelling people and it was a dive, the pay was bad. Then of course I would stand tall with cheap gear.
1. One must understand all the equipment you currently have and that will set up the first open door to reveal certain options.
Example; A customer mentioned that they wanted a wireless microphone and the equipment they had was a set of Electrovoice ELX15 speakers, Set of EV ELX18 subs, Peavey PV14 mixer, etc. Within 2 seconds flat, you should already be looking for higher priced/quality wireless mics to compliment it.
Or someone just bought an all in one karaoke player from the big box store for $99 and wanted to get a quality microphone for the system. Honestly, the foundation is toyish, so why waste money on higher priced mics. At best, spend no more than $39 for a corded mic and even that did not deserve to be subjected to the poor quality of that all in one system. OR vice versa where the woman purchased a $500 all in one karaoke system and then if they tried to pair it up with a $40 wireless microphone. That too is an injustice in itself.
I hope all this rambling made some sense. Sorry for writing so much.
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spotlightjr
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:15 pm |
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Have always preferred the freedom of movement with cordless mics for the "performers" that sing at my shows. I notice the audience also seems to respond better to a singer that moves around and takes full advantage of the stage area, etc. I guess it could be personal preference but I also prefer a cordless mic. Whether I'm hosting trivia, karaoke, weddings, etc. I'm usually moving. Not having to worry about tripping over the cord is one less thing to deal with and I have great cordless mics (shure pgx24). They take a beating and keep going.
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Jasaoke
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:00 pm |
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A little wrap of tape around the end of the cable, where it connects to the mic goes a long way. The biggest problem I've seen with corded is that folks tend to seperate the mic from the cable when getting the mic in or out of the clip.
I guess I'm old fashioned, or maybe just simple; I like corded mics. It's one less battery to worry about, oneless thing in the signal chain to go bad, one less possibility for interference/ dropout. It's pretty inexpensive to keep a few spare XLR cables around.
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Brian A
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:07 pm |
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Jasaoke wrote: A little wrap of tape around the end of the cable, where it connects to the mic goes a long way. Same here, Jasaoke. Black tape around that end xlr connect cable. But I also - tape the cable at the bottom round base. First, pull the mic pole as high as it can go (for 6ft+ singers), then tape the cable middle, bottom & around the mic base. You will have a little cable slack in the middle depending on singer’s height, no biggie, & when the singer moves with mic stand in tow the rest of the cable will be touching the floor - from the base. At least better than a freely hanging loop, thus help minimize tripping. Attachment:
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mrmarog
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:39 pm |
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Brian A wrote: Jasaoke wrote: A little wrap of tape around the end of the cable, where it connects to the mic goes a long way. Same here, Jasaoke. Black tape around that end xlr connect cable. But I also - tape the cable at the bottom round base. First, pull the mic pole as high as it can go (for 6ft+ singers), then tape the cable middle, bottom & around the mic base. You will have a little cable slack in the middle depending on singer’s height, no biggie, & when the singer moves with mic stand in tow the rest of the cable will be touching the floor - from the base. At least better than a freely hanging loop, thus help minimize tripping. And if they get thirsty they have a very nice selection of wine
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