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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:14 am 
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I now have 3 of these across my systems and plan on ordering 2 more to replace existing wireless mic installs.

Good sound quality, low handling noise, solid construction, and some features you specifically didn't want, but get for less than the price threshold you set.

And you get 4 mics instead of just 2.

One of my favorite features is each mic having an internal physical gain switch. I have set these to the LOW setting to virtually eliminate handling noise.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GTD-Audio-4x800 ... 2320536d35

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They are not very rack friendly. The antennas being in the back would pose a problem for me and for anyone else that would like to rack mount them. The antennas should be in the front or at least give you the option. The Audio-Technica/Digital Reference mics antennas are also in the back but they give you the option of bringing them to the front.

Anyway, GTD Audio or VocoPro... Seriously??? Why buy crap. Get the good stuff and leave the toys at home.

Yes, you can get 4 mics for the basically the price of one Shure. And there's a reason for that. Remember folks, you usually get what you pay for. Sometimes I just don't get the mentality of the folks on this forum.


As my wife likes to say - "It's all about the rack".

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I actually prefer the antennas in the back. They are protected from being bent/broken from the front. But that is just my opinion and hardly the way I think everyone should think.

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I now have 3 of these across my systems and plan on ordering 2 more to replace existing wireless mic installs.

Good sound quality, low handling noise, solid construction, and some features you specifically didn't want, but get for less than the price threshold you set.

And you get 4 mics instead of just 2.

One of my favorite features is each mic having an internal physical gain switch. I have set these to the LOW setting to virtually eliminate handling noise.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GTD-Audio-4x800 ... 2320536d35

-Chris

They are not very rack friendly. The antennas being in the back would pose a problem for me and for anyone else that would like to rack mount them. The antennas should be in the front or at least give you the option. The Audio-Technica/Digital Reference mics antennas are also in the back but they give you the option of bringing them to the front.

Anyway, GTD Audio or VocoPro... Seriously??? Why buy crap. Get the good stuff and leave the toys at home.

Yes, you can get 4 mics for the basically the price of one Shure. And there's a reason for that. Remember folks, you usually get what you pay for. Sometimes I just don't get the mentality of the folks on this forum.


As my wife likes to say - "It's all about the rack".

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I actually prefer the antennas in the back. They are protected from being bent/broken from the front. But that is just my opinion and hardly the way I think everyone should think.

-Chris

I'm glad that's working out for you. It seems that you have room in there so space doesn't seem to be a problem.

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Alan B wrote:
They are not very rack friendly. The antennas being in the back would pose a problem for me and for anyone else that would like to rack mount them. The antennas should be in the front or at least give you the option. The Audio-Technica/Digital Reference mics antennas are also in the back but they give you the option of bringing them to the front.


Good point. There is a Shure SM58 rack version that is still within the budget. I see the OP has some SM58s so the question is, do you like the sound and response of the wired version?
Suggesting other quality mics certainly fits in the thread. I mainly wanted to make sure the OP only considered the quality mics in the budget. I haven't experienced them all so...


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Alan B wrote:
Anyway, GTD Audio or VocoPro... Seriously??? Why buy crap. Get the good stuff and leave the toys at home.

Yes, you can get 4 mics for the basically the price of one Shure. And there's a reason for that. Remember folks, you usually get what you pay for. Sometimes I just don't get the mentality of the folks on this forum.

Vocopro I agre, but I was reluctant on the GTD and found to be very surprised. I don't typically use crap in my system either & these work very well after the last couple months of adding them to the system. Again, put beside my Shure SM58 wireless (and a slight eq tweak) you cannot tell the difference.

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@MrBoo/others - Exactly! First of all, I have backup wired mics in case one or both wireless mics get busted. Also, this won't be used by customers but rather close friends and relatives who will be much more careful with my things. Moreover, this won't be used a lot at an average of around 2x a month and max of 4x a month.

In this regard, I would rather go quality over quantity (4pcs of lower end mics) which is why I am more of looking into the Sennheiser G3 100series 835 or 845 or the shure counterpart or some of those you have mentioned.

By the way, I should've pointed out in my original post that I am from the Philippines and most of the things that you have been mentioning for me to test are not available at our local stores readily. It will have to be specially ordered which will take a couple of days and would also mean that I have to agree to buy them first and pay for them if I want to test them (funny eh? In short, no testing for special ordered items!). For the mics I plan to purchase, however, I will be getting them from the internet and have it shipped to a friend in the USA who will then re-ship it to me via seafreight (much cheaper). Thus, I could not test the mic if it would fit my voice. I will have to rely on your recommendations.

I also understand that a wired mic sounds much better than a wireless one and it takes around 3x to 4x the budget to get a comparable sounding wireless mic to sound like its wired counterpart. But then again, what i'm doing is more for fun and not a professional thing. I believe Wireless trumps Wired mics during home karaoke sessions and the drop in audio quality would be justified by the benefit wireless provides. (no tripping over the wire and wireless freedom).

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You could work it two different ways. Get two different mics for their characteristics. Maybe one to handle softer female voices and different model to handle heavier guy voices. I usually do home shows with three mics that are each different and Toned differently. I hand singers a mic more suited for them which means less change I have to do and a mic usually only has minor changes through the night. The disadvantage is each component for each mic is unique to that mic. Every point is a single point of failure.

The other option would be to go with identical mics. You can still tone them differently but the over all characteristics of the mics will be the same. Of course now all the components are interchangeable but how often will you have two mics fail in different areas where you can combine them together to get one good mic. I have had this happen on two different sets of mics but it happened with abuse in bars and it was over a set of years.

I would maybe opt for the first option if I were you. You always have wired mics to back up if needed. Maybe the SM58 tuned for guys and something with a softer top end that is a little more responsive for females. You may find that YOU like to sing some songs on one mic and others on the other.


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MrBoo wrote:
Your budget is perfect for the work horse mic in it's base package, the Shure SM58

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/handheld ... 58-capsule

To me, this is the only choice you should consider.


Exactly. Go with this proven, pro solution and you will be good for many years. You will not be sorry, that's for Shure. :lol:


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I have 3 Pgx 24 with SM58 capsules and 3 Pgx24 with Beta58a capsules. There has never been a moment I regretted buying them. No pops, drop outs, or handling noise.


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Since I had mostly Shure wireless before finding GTDs, and then found that my singers PREFER- not me, my singers- the GTDs, I have to go with them as my choice.

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I got the GTD mics through a friend that hated them. I didn't like them at first but put them into service. Many of the not so good singers love them, my 'musician' and better singers tend to migrate to the wired SM58's - even though they've sang on them and used them, they still prefer the more quality sound of the Shures. But will use the wireless when they want to walk around.

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Do those GTD mics have a muddy sound? Heavier middle? Why do not so good singers like them? Is it just because they are wireless?


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Do those GTD mics have a muddy sound? Heavier middle? Why do not so good singers like them? Is it just because they are wireless?

Muddy, no not really, you do have to tweak them a little in the eq, otherwise they do not sound half bad, feel good. I think the not so good like them simply because they are wireless & can walk around with them.

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Voco-pro.(4 mics) Just bought for 300.00 new at guitar center. Been using them and pleased.


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Voco-pro.(4 mics) Just bought for 300.00 new at guitar center. Been using them and pleased.


VocoPro = Toys.

Ever seen a major artist or even a cheesy local cover band singing with a Voco-Pro mic on stage? There is a reason.


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