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Good point.

Multi shows on the same night would need their own book to coincide with that library!

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Just harder because most subscriptions you have to use a different email for login purposes. It would be better to be able to add another subscription under an already existing account, one login to update all accounts.

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The use of an online list is very useful for the patrons. SongDive makes it easy for the crowd to interact on singing night. The lists that are on the KJs page can have the submit form temporarily halted so the KJ does not get annoyed off nights. The patrons can still easily identify the KJ and peruse his/her offerings just like the other service. The difference is, on singing night the patron doesn't have to leave the seat to get put in the rotation. And might think of something else while they wait. Also the KJ can use SongDive while testing out other KJ software/systems without missing a beat. We have found the setup on public networks to be difficult without putting their own sub-router in, as the "guest" wireless networks don't allow private access, they only allow public networks like internet.
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Good point Lonman, your correct.
Then the subscription amount would be based on the number of books listed. Problem is there would also have to be a way to associate a phone with each book and what if each venue had different hosts, I see lots of issues with a service like this that would send texts to a phone. If the regular KJ were to have a sub for a night he would have to give the sub his phone.

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Well if each kj at each venue had a special sub-login or something to that effect, it could automatically activate that KJ's (already stored in the site) phone for that book. So if multiple kj's were doing one night, each one would need to login in with their personal login code (or something) and that would in turn activate that kj's phone number. So basically under the master account - use Chris as an example. He would have and setup up his kj's with each book for their venue. Then assigns them an activation login code (or something). The KJ just logs in to their book.
Does this even sound feasible, I know what I'm trying to convey, just not sure if it's coming across that way .

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And if a service is offered that lets me manage multiple lists/multiple shows, then I would be remiss if I didn't find out about it and try to save some money.

There is another service that does this btw.....

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SongDive seems to be geared toward single rig operators, which is the majority of karaoke operators there are. Nothing wrong with that, just doesn't work for me.

I use SongBooksLive which is also geared toward single rigs, but the price is right and it works on ANY device, so it works for me for now. I just list every single disc I have there.

There is that other service out of Australia that actually does accommodate multiple rigs on a single account.

But I am still not sold on the idea of letting singers hide in a corner of the bar and only appear when they are called to the stage.

I still prefer to interact with my singers and these services reduce that interaction.

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He could multi rig through one account at songbookdb. Cost him more than one rig bur under the same umbrella.

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For my karaoke services, I am only interested in letting people search for music on a device. That makes sense to me and is a much more cost effective solution over books. But I still like books, and polls of our singers indicate they still want books, so they are staying for the time being. I want and like the customer interaction and so do the singers.

I have yet to see anyone using a kiosk in my area and I have never had anyone raving to me about a kiosk. I have also not heard anyone raving about how they used their phone to submit their song requests.

For that matter, we get asked practically every night where the "sign up slips are". Lots of people like the old ways.

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Books and song slips are what my singers prefer as well. Books provide inspiration to try something new by having your memory jabbed by seeing it in print. I have found that the singers that never sing anything new are the ones that never look at my books.

I have a policy that I have started now for the last 6 months that when I get 15 singers signed up to sing I will start the show. I get flooded with requests all at once and by insisting that they give my a song slip I can easily handle the stack of requests without forgetting a single thing. Try that with a verbal requests.

I do a similar thing at my shows, but I only ask for 6 people. It was an arbitrary number, but it works. I can't really ask for 13 (which I assume is what you average in an hour) because I may not have 13 people in the bar at 9:30. The bar I personally host at is a 10:30 bar. There are times that it is just myself and the bartender at 9:30, but by 10:30 I will have 30 people queued up. Other times, I have 30 signed up before start.

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I'll start when I have 5 singers in the que but until then I'll play filler music.

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I start at my advertised time whether I have 1 or 100. Never understood why those that came in on time don't get to sing until there are a set amount of people? Let them start the show - just play a filler song or two after the rotation (whatever that may be) just to fill out time until their next song.

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If I did that I would be starting more than 1 hour ahead of my advertised start. I send out an email to 200+ customers every week with pictures and venue info, and in the email I always mention what "the early start time" I had for the previous week. It varies from 15 to 35 minutes earlier than my posted 7 o'clock start time.

This is a restaurant that struggles to fill food orders if everyone shows up at 7 PM. So if a good number show up early it dramatically helps smooth out the kitchen crisis. It adds to my show length, but it makes the 1st rotation seem shorter because I will have any where from 5 to 9 singers through before 7pm. I'm there anyway so why not start.

As a KJ, same here.
And as a singer when I got out and a show is advertised to start at 9, some one better be singing at 9 or I am complaining to the kj, staff manager and owner.

That's the way i've always felt as well. I got there on time, KJ is ready to go, I have songs turned in - but just because the list is 1 or 2 short (or hell maybe I'm the only singer at the moment), that I have to wait? My time doesn't count for anything? What if you do not get anymore singers for say another 1/2 hour or longer?
More often than not I've found as a kj, if you have only 1 singer - more will be quick to follow, many do NOT want to be the first singer for some odd reason & will wait until they hear someone else.

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Very Cool! I have tried collecting emails, but it seems that email is a less relevant method of communicating with my singers than Twitter or even Facebook. I am willing to give it another go though.

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I usually get singers after my start time. Sometimes I start karaoke when I get a couple of requests.

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On weekend nights, most times we'll already have 5-10 slips on the counter waiting before I even walk in the door.

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