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And what would you be willing to pay for the privilege of taking SC and CB discs off my hands?

If you ate cereal made by Kellogg's for years loving it (Froot Loops are basically Candy you eat with Milk, and spelling is wrong because there is NO FRUIT in it), then found out that they were putting harmful ingredients in it on purpose would you still eat it anyway? Would you be flying a flag on your porch helping them to poison others and promote a product that increases the likelihood of youth Diabetes?

If you made a living driving a vehicle and found out years after, you've been buying Gas that had been made illegally and they had been stealing the raw materials to make the product, would you want to praise them or drool over their demise.

Kurt will never be homeless, he will print as many discs as he can illegally, use eBay under SECRET seller accounts and sell the product he has stolen from Musicians (to keep his mansion and yacht), people with families struggling to get by, most in their old age. (Deleted inaccurate statement)"SHOUT - BY THE ISLEY BROTHERS" all over 70 years old. Allegedly, SC stole the song and sold it more than 30,000 times to KJ's and hobbyist. So even after SC has stolen from the elderly you still want to Fly their banner? Shame on you RUMbolt, shame on you Slep-Tone.

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Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

That's an awfully specific allegation.

Of course, there is almost nothing in this post that is accurate. Tony Macaulay did write that song (with Mike d'Abo), though, so there is that.

Kurt does not own a mansion or a yacht. He lives in a middle-class neighborhood in an ordinary house, which if you had any inclination to find, could be found easily through public records. As for "Build Me Up Buttercup," I've reviewed the sales records for that song because it's included in the EMI suit. SC has had valid licensing, for which it has paid the applicable royalties in full, for the song.

I have no idea where you're getting your (dis)information, but you're being misled by your source.

Here's the thing, Joe...the only way a host has more than a nominal cost to fight SC is if he or she can't show 1:1 correspondence. It just does not cost that much money--the cost of the audit, which we often waive, and the time required to gather the materials. It's not zero, of course, but it's far, far less than the cost of a settlement.

I think you'll agree that someone who can't show 1:1 correspondence is, by definition, a pirate.

The dispute between EMI and SC is almost entirely a disagreement about the scope and interpretation of the MCPS license. (Virtually none of the other materials EMI sued on had been sold in the three years prior to the suit.) It's not a binary situation.

I am sorry, I thought that one was in there but it is not so lets just pick another song for the sake of argument. Your client is still guilty, spin it anyway you like. Crook does not equal Pioneer, or mybe it does in your vocabulary.

Take out "Build me up buttercup" and instert "SHOUT - BY THE ISLEY BROTHERS"

All over 70 years old and EMI claims you stole it. It's their allegation not mine!

I could care less where the Slep's live, They made many Millions of dollars and according to EMI and CAVS did it illegally.

Everything Harrington says is to justify wrong doing of his client. Explain Strawberry Wine? One of the most popular Karaoke songs ever! Stolen by SC, according to EMI?????

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Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

You seem awfully certain that the allegations are true.



It doesn't matter which song you insert. The answer is the same. What you don't seem to understand is that a license was issued and the royalty was paid. The only question is whether SC's actions exceeded the scope of that license. This is a commercial dispute. It's not about "stealing."

I fail to see what the age of the songwriters has to do with it. Is it "stealing" if the songwriter is 70 but not stealing if the songwriter is 69?

You're a lawyer right? How do you convince a Jury to side with you? By playing on there heart strings? Make the defendant look like they did it to their own parents or grandparents right? Just a little bit of your own tricks.

Did the SC employee not file a written affidavit stating that SC produced most of their songs without permission? As far as stating that "Derek Slep" said it was cheaper to get caught and pay the settlement fees rather than pay up front? Is this not accurate or true?

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If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically!
The Truth often gets in the way of a good story.
Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

It used to be that if anyone said anything at all against what SC claimed, there were 50 people lined up to call you stupid or a Pirate, where are all the cheerleaders now? Athena Thunder Insane etc???? Cat got your tongue now that things aren't so peachy with your savior(SC)?

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If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically!
The Truth often gets in the way of a good story.
Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

I hope you are not naive enough to believe what what is in an affidavit is the Gospel truth. Especially from someone who has an axe to grind. What evidence did the Testator bring with him or her?

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Mostly I just present the facts. When I "prep" witnesses to testify, I simply ask them to tell the truth in their own words--and you can ask any of the dozens of witnesses I've spoken to over the years, and every last one of them will tell you that I instructed them to tell the truth, no matter what.

Jurors aren't stupid, and if you treat them as though they are, they tend to resent it.



There is such an affidavit, and it was given by a disgruntled former employee. Knowing Derek, I can tell you that it would be entirely within his character to make a statement, in a moment of frustration, along the lines of, "I don't know why we pay all these royalties. It would be cheaper not to pay them and just settle later." Have you ever been faced with doing something that was uncomfortable and frustrating, but was the right thing to do? Have you ever allowed yourself to think about what it would be like to shirk your responsibilities?

I will admit that on more than one occasion I've said something like, "I should just tell Judge So-and-So to f--- himself." Does that mean I was actually planning to do that, or would ever do that? Does it mean that I don't respect judges? Of course not.

The problem with the affidavit is that it doesn't comport with the actual record. I can't speak for what other companies do, although I suspect that many karaoke companies have a poor record of compliance with licensing and royalties. But I know that SC has a long history of substantial compliance. Your allegations are off-base and driven by ignorance and hatred. I don't know what is driving your hatred--maybe you were a defendant?--but it's making you do ugly things that reflect poorly on you.

And there's the rub. Instead of making your simple statement, you again and again keep poking at anyone who has a debate of what is true and not. When it doesn't suit you, you attack them in an attempt to make the statement said prior seem utterly unsubstantiated and completely false.

Jurors are stupid they are the same people who do what they're told and believe what they are supposed to. The same people that want more people in jail and a wall to protect us from Mexican invaders. The people that cannot think for themselves. Jurors had people accused of witchcraft burned at the stake. Christians believe that the Earth is 6000 years old even though there's proof that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. 77% of the US population consider themselves Christian. Are you?

Do you believe that if you have enough faith you will be healed of a life threatening disease?

Here is someone who does, Michelle Bachmann former candidate for president and Christian said; "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009" She also said that God speaks to her through her husband. Now if a candidate for president is this naive what do you think about your neighbors wife who is born again Christian and heading off to be a Juror.

Not that I am picking on religion, since I am a Christian, but I am a realist and understand that the Bible is a guide to be a better person and written a long time ago when people thought that "thunder" was God being angry for something we have done.

“Again, (America is) a stupid country with stupid people who don’t pay attention.” — Bill Maher

The difference between good and bad (Right and Wrong) depends on what side you're on!

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Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

So who exactly tells juries what to do? Do Men in Black go into the Deliberation Room and tell them how to vote and if they don't they eliminate them. Sorry, you have no idea of what you are talking about. Sure there may have been some bad juries, but they are picked at random and in most cases agreed to by both the Prosecutor and Defence, remember that both sides have only a number of rejections. They may not be perfect but they certainly are not all corrupt as you try to betray them as being. And don't bring up OJ because that was nothing but a circus and had no semblence of what goes on in the majority of trials.

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The thing that makes your statements "seem utterly unsubstantiated and completely false" is that they are actually unsubstantiated and completely false. I have no idea if you made those statements up yourself or are just repeating something you've heard, but it really doesn't matter.

I haven't attacked anyone, least of all you. I can understand that you might feel attacked because I have responded to your false statements, but I can't help how you feel.

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
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"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity."
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"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
-Bertrand Russell

"Only the wisest and stupidest of men never change."
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Q: How does an attorney sleep?
A: First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.

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If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically!
The Truth often gets in the way of a good story.
Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

Wow a bunch of quotes. I guess you proved your point.

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"A man who cannot speak for himself, speaks not at all"
-Chris E. Avis

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There's an idiot born every minute EH. Even in Canada EH.

Learn from history or be forced to relive it.

The quotes were so the low IQ's even in Canada could hear from Famous people in history what is widely disseminated by knowledgeable people every day.

Stupid people are not open-minded. They know it all already.
Big Easy

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If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically!
The Truth often gets in the way of a good story.
Record companies should make every song in a karaoke version and kill the dispute!

Hey, I'm a big fan of good lawyer jokes. Be sure to let me know when you hear one.

Just keep in mind Big Easy's tag line...

I have said almost exactly the same thing when people yammer on about "government controlled media", etc. I have worked in the media for over 30 years, Radio & TV. Never, EVER did anyone from the "gubmint" come into the newsrooms and tell people what to say (or not say). People making such claims have never worked in such an environment themselves, be it a jury room or a newsroom.