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Music speaks to the heart in ways words cannot express.

Of course. I'm not sure why you are surprised I would say that.

As I said above, SC is under no obligation to tell you anything. Your recourse is to decline to buy or use the product if you are not satisfied with the response.

I was not really surprised that you would say that and I do thank you for being honest.
Reaffirms everything I now believe about this industry and the manufacturers of karaoke songs.

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Music speaks to the heart in ways words cannot express.

There is no need to be "made whole" if I own the discs. That was the entire point I was making. Disc ownership carries "insulation" that download purchases do not....if I own the disc there is NO loss to be made whole from. Thank you for reinforcing my point

First off I did NOT reinforce your point! Your point is pointless.
You buy disc, you own the disc, presumably you have a receipt for the disc.
You buy a download, you have in your possession the download, you have a receipt for the download.
In neither case do you "own" the "material" on the disc or within the download.
Where in your mind did you come up with this "more insulated" bs?
Do you think because you spout it, it is true?
Not falling for it.

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Incorrect RLC the laws (and Licencing) regarding disc VS download are completely different...and IF you took even 5 minutes to research you would understand the difference and stop insisting that they were the same...Geesh I now understand why my wife gave up on this forum

She was smart!

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So,How many people here actually think they are going to get sued by ANYONE for using Tricerasoft downloads??? Seriously, how many of you are actually afraid of this outcome??

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Not sure how much of a chance of being sued there is percentage wise. I , however dont want to pay for something that only requires publication to effect a cease and desist and open me to legal liability. I would rather buy on disc and have something that I can use AND sell later if I wish. If the publishers decide to make an example of anyone I know it wont be me.

You and Mrs. You have always been paranoid about this stuff. If Tricerasoft were to be shut down, then there will be less product to buy, is all that will happen. Personally, I don't think they will be shutting down. But if they do, maybe it will help ASK to step up their game and make better and more frequent product.

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From all the information the Mrs has been getting I suggest you get what you want from Tri as quickly as you can. I am convinced the option will be unavailable for KJ's in the USA a lot sooner than you think.

Then there will be NO source for new songs. Oh well. That will be a sad day. Of course the cheerleading squad will be happy about it. They seem to be happy about ANYTHING that makes getting songs harder to do, and keeps us stuck in the dark ages of media.

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You do NOT know it won't be you. You are not licensed or approved by anyone to display the lyrics in public. THAT is the one sticking point for ALL karaoke hosts regardless of whether they are using discs, MP3+G, a pirate hard drive, paid downloads, original Laserdisc, whatever.

There is absolutely no effective way any music producer/rights holder can do to verify the authenticity of ANY karaoke library regardless of media type. So having discs only protects you from karaoke manufacturers, NOT the rights holders (and they have a LOT more power)

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-Chris

And I am confident that karaoke music will end up in a similar model to what iTunes and other services use now. It may take 5 or 10 years, or it may only take 1. Who knows. But discs are NOT the future of karaoke.

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-Chris

I don't actually consider you part of the cheerleading squad. While you DO support the actions that SC has taken you don't bend the knee to Harrington and Slep on every point they make. There are some here that do.

I would LOVE an iTunes type solution, especially if it could encompass EVERY brand of Karaoke, so we could have a whole host of choice and variety to build our collections upon, at a moment's notice.

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Then we would be right back to renting your music. Discs and downloads would be a thing of the past, you would no longer be able to buy/own your music. Here we go again.

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Actually I do know it wont be me, based on the law as it now stands. Worst case scenario I am forced to return to playing discs as they were designed to be played. I have players ready and available and would have little difficulty flipping discs again. I would not like having to haul all the extra weight again however

A very 'sad day' is coming. If you have paid attention to what has been happening you already see that. The publishers can and will shut off access to new music until they are able to control the situation. I do not know of anyone that rejoices in that fact. Until the laws are changed here in the USA we are stuck in the dark ages of physical media.

Frank, people like you are ALWAYS happy when things in the Karaoke world go backwards instead of forwards. You can then go preening about how right you were. Every time there is some setback you AND Athena come on here and throw it in everyone's faces like it is a personal victory.

BTW, speaking of Athena, I hope she is well.

None of us is going to get sued for using the downloads we have BOUGHT. The WORST that will happen will be that we will have only All Start and DTE to buy from, which will really suck.

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That is ultimately where we are going to be anyway. The publishers know that the only way they can truly control the products they own the rights for is to never let anyone actually own a permanent copy of it.

Unlike the days before the Internet - when books, pictures, TV, music, movies could only be duplicated on the exact same media they were recorded to (or something not so easily copied) - practically EVERYTHING can be copied digitally now. Copyright only works when there is scarcity of product that can be controlled.

The cat has been out of the bag for over a decade though and ANYONE with a computer can easily make unlimited copies of just about anything. Scarcity is gone. The only way to monetize things to the degree the publishers want is to restrict how things are distributed without negatively impacting broad sales.

So what I am saying is that the trend of streaming, DRM, and "use without owning" is the trend I told people about a couple years back that WILL be the way content is distributed. The KaraokeCloud is just the first round. Expect more.

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-Chris