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The thing is, Joe, you're not just looking for information. You're trying to use unfounded innuendo to create fear among SC's customers that their GEM series products are going to be recalled. It's not "just a question."



If you honestly believe you're not spreading anything just because you couch your comments in the form of a loaded question, then you're not as smart as you claim to be.

Anyway, I believe I have answered your question. The answer is, "We're not wasting time preparing for contingencies that aren't going to happen." We also don't have a plan for protecting the trademark in the event of a zombie apocalypse, either.

But let's play your little game for just a bit. In all the many hundreds of copyright infringement suits over music that have been filed over the last couple of decades, have you ever heard of discs being recalled from end users? Ever?

Of course not. The reason is that copyright infringement cases are about MONEY, and specifically about music publishers extracting money from music producers. There is no money in recalling discs, so it doesn't happen.

You got me rolling on the floor with that one! That's hysterical!

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Jim, keep looking for something that isn't there, if that's what your mindset requires.

If it helps quell your fears, If the courts uphold SC's use of the First Sale Doctrine ( due to dealing with a company whose existence coincidentally rose and fell on about the same timelines as GEM production) then I see no possibility of a recall of this product.

I was simply asking about the possibility in regard to an SC loss in court- were that to happen. Hypothetical.

As for recalling from an end user, this is a special case, as the end user hasn't purchased the product outright. The end user does not OWN THE PRODUCT.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

This is not accurate. They were in business long before the GEM series, and they went out of business because the licensing provisions changed and the business case for what they were doing dried up.

re: Harringtonlaw and Joe Chartreuse:

My head hurts. I won't even pretend to understand all these nuances. But I recall back in 2004 or 2005 (?) getting a letter from Sound Choice about discs I had bought from them that had Glen Frey's music on them. They "requested" return of the discs for destruction and replacement without the offending songs.

It may have been a different songwriter, but I remember coming here to find out what the dealio was, and I ended up keeping the discs after reading that they couldn't compel anyone to return them. That was about the time I gave up on Sound Choice and got a subscription to Pop Hits instead.

Did I dream this? I admit my memory fails me often. Anyone else recall the specifics?

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Don't remember any recall, except for those recalled from the retail stores. They couldn't ask the kj to return their discs once they bought them in a recall situation. And unless you were buying directly from SC, they wouldn't have had your contact info anyway. I always bought from other sources as SC would purposely keep their prices higher as to not directly compete with the retailers (or so I was told years ago on SC forum by the studio manager BC).

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When I started my own show in 2003 Sound Choice was all I knew. I was burned the first time I bought discs on eBay, so I ended up buying several from Sound Choice directly. After getting sick of their duplications and ridiculously high prices I dug deeper and found Karaoke Scene, and all sorts of great information about manufacturers, etc.

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I never used e-bay, just online retailers - mostly karaoke.com and prosing.com at the time (both gone now). Their prices were typically $5-10 lower than the manu direct.

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My provider of choice when I used to buy discs was doowop.com out of Kentucky. Great service and comparatively low prices. Now I only buy single track downloads when my customers ask for something I don't have.

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~Cindy
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Yes they were another source I used often as they usually could find the out of print discs on a regular basis, not so much anymore.
I do the per request buys now as well - will usually back that up with a custom disc once I get enough tracks to fill one (probably overkill but I feel better about it plus it gives me a back up to play in case the computer dies for a night). Only ones I don't get discs for a from karaoke-version as they do not offer that service.

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2007...that's not long before, but dc was having them make discs back then when they first opened.

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