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I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


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No experience with either. However you don't want VHF for the mic.

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I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


The 380-H VHF Has One 1/4" Mixed output not like the UHF that has XLR for each channel, and is an entry level product. That be said you get what you pay for. The U-504H UHF is fixed freq. You can't change the channel. If you have a TV station that is too close you can't use that mic.


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I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


The 380-H VHF Has One 1/4" Mixed output not like the UHF that has XLR for each channel, and is an entry level product. That be said you get what you pay for. The U-504H UHF is fixed freq. You can't change the channel. If you have a TV station that is too close you can't use that mic.


Kirk's Thanks for the input... The "Get what you pay for rule" is a solid rule but what's ironic is from what I've been reading the GTD's seem to be the exception to that rule.. That's why I asked if anyone had experience with the 380 & 504 models I mentioned above...


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I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


The 380-H VHF Has One 1/4" Mixed output not like the UHF that has XLR for each channel, and is an entry level product. That be said you get what you pay for. The U-504H UHF is fixed freq. You can't change the channel. If you have a TV station that is too close you can't use that mic.


Kirk's Thanks for the input... The "Get what you pay for rule" is a solid rule but what's ironic is from what I've been reading the GTD's seem to be the exception to that rule.. That's why I asked if anyone had experience with the 380 & 504 models I mentioned above...

I've been using the GTD Audio G-787H UHF system for two years without any problems so far. It has 800 ch. to select from and is the four mic system. Price per mic is under $95. Each ch. has a XLR output plus one 1/4" combined output. At $329.00 I think it's their top of the line system but that's just a guess. Replacement mic's run around $40+ shipping.


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I sang on the UHF 4 mic system last Friday. Maybe the Host just didn't know how to make the mics sound right, but I thought that they sounded horrible. Sounded like singing through a sock in a bathroom. I know what I sound like on various different good mics. It hurt my ears and my feelings not to sound like I know I should.

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I sang on the UHF 4 mic system last Friday. Maybe the Host just didn't know how to make the mics sound right, but I thought that they sounded horrible. Sounded like singing through a sock in a bathroom. I know what I sound like on various different good mics. It hurt my ears and my feelings not to sound like I know I should.

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Don't blame the mics. If they didn't sound good, I would not be using them. Neither would anyone else here that uses them.

I've gotten many compliments from singers on how good they sound. And never had one complaint yet. In my opinion, they are very close to Shure SM58 sound quality. And I've compared them side by side. So have my singers. Some prefer the GTD audio over the Shure. I think they are extremely close.

So yes, I would guess the host doesn't know what he's doing.

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My guess is he could've had the best Shure Beta 58 system and it would've sounded the same.

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Ya, I absolutely agree with Alan and Lonnie. I get nothing but good things from all my long time singers. Who ever you song to must be turning all the high end (treble) off. These mics just can cut through any room clutter and sound good run flat (EQed) and so vary little feed back just like a Beta 58. :?


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sanj wrote:
I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


...I have 3 sets of the GTD 622's. Only have experienced one small problem with the first one. Tried the 380-H last year. Worked with them for six hours over 3 days. Had nothing but issues (dropouts, humming, etc.). Sent them back and reordered the third set of GTD 622's. However, it appears that GTD now has another UHF 4-mic wireless system: http://www.amazon.com/GTD-Audio-U-504H- ... 68-2460358
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I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


...I have 3 sets of the GTD 622's. Only have experienced one small problem with the first one. Tried the 380-H last year. Worked with them for six hours over 3 days. Had nothing but issues (dropouts, humming, etc.). Sent them back and reordered the third set of GTD 622's. However, it appears that GTD now has another UHF 4-mic wireless system: http://www.amazon.com/GTD-Audio-U-504H- ... 68-2460358
...Good Luck!

I have the 622's and I also have this set:
http://www.amazon.com/GTD-Audio-G-787H- ... =gtd+audio

I absolutely love it. The link you reference is nowhere as good as these. You can't expect top quality with 4 wireless mics for only $169. You need to be looking at the 622 or the 787. They are designed for "Pro" use. Step it up a notch and get out of the consumer grade level and you'll see that everything we're talking about is true. There is a difference.

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I sang, for the first time, on a GTD 4 wireless mic system. The mic felt good in my hand and the handling noise was acceptable. On the negative side, the EQ was horrible set flat.

I am going to require a second much more serious back surgery in June (spinal fusion L2-L6) and I am auditioning this guy (he doesn't know it yet). He seems to be open to helpful suggestions so I believe he will be fine. I am also agreeable to allowing him to use my library and singer history. Since there can be zero chance of a 1:1 issue I would feel much better about everything.


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sanj wrote:
I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks


...I have 3 sets of the GTD 622's. Only have experienced one small problem with the first one. Tried the 380-H last year. Worked with them for six hours over 3 days. Had nothing but issues (dropouts, humming, etc.). Sent them back and reordered the third set of GTD 622's. However, it appears that GTD now has another UHF 4-mic wireless system: http://www.amazon.com/GTD-Audio-U-504H- ... 68-2460358
...Good Luck!

I have the 622's and I also have this set:
http://www.amazon.com/GTD-Audio-G-787H- ... =gtd+audio

I absolutely love it. The link you reference is nowhere as good as these. You can't expect top quality with 4 wireless mics for only $169. You need to be looking at the 622 or the 787. They are designed for "Pro" use. Step it up a notch and get out of the consumer grade level and you'll see that everything we're talking about is true. There is a difference.


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...If you're referring to the link I provided (U-504H UHF Wireless Microphone System with 4 Hand Held Mics), at a glance it appears to be a 622 system with 4 mics instead of 2. Which I would have thought would have been an upgraded model of the 622 (ability to use 4 instead of 2 mics)

...When I was responding to the original poster's question:"I received an email from Amazon yesterday that showed a few more GTD Wireless Microphones packages. I have the GTD 622 2 Wireless Microphones (thanks for the suggestion) and like it but was thinking of going for the 4 Wireless instead of the 2. Just curious...Does anyone have any experience with either the 380-H VHF for $129 or the U-504H UHF for $169? Thanks" I was just giving my personal experience with the 380-H VHF model. My best results have been with the "UHF" 622 model. My first purchase of the 622 model was back in 2011 when Amazon only had a few reviews from customers. Once I plugged it into the system, I was overwhelmed by the performance of $169.00 wireless system. When others began to ask questions here, at KS, I responded. I do know some, here at KS, were hesitant to buy or would compare them to other top brands ($$$), some even bashed them without even hearing or trying them. Now Amazon has 360+ reviews, averaging 4.5+ stars, so I guess they've done relatively well for a "cheap" price.

...Only reason I purchased a couple more sets of the 622's is because #1) I wanted a backup set, #2) I wanted the ability to run 4 mics instead of just 2 and #3) other GTD 4 wireless mic sets had the antennas on the backside instead of the front and that doesn't work well in my rack.

...Just figured the OP was looking at a 4-mic system without paying $300.00 plus dollars. Besides, who would have thought you could pick up a good solid wireless microphone system for $169.00, right? :)

...My post about the GTD VHF 380-H was my personal experience with that set. My link to the GTD U-504H UHF was just trying to be helpful and to be honest, I overlooked that part of the original post. When I noticed the GTD 380-H part of the original posting, I immediately thought to myself "....NO, don't do it!" Either way, I'll stick with the UHF models!


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Thanks for all the advice... Didn't mean to cause a sqirmish...The 622's are a few years old now and I was just seeing if the 504's were as good as the 622's. (Are they?) You can say price is only $169 for the 4 so they can't be but who knows they might be close in quality as the 622's. Don't know until you ask... Might have made alot of advancements since they originally introduced... so why spend $329 when the 504's are about as good..

I do this just about 5-6 times a year (man's got to have a hobby) :) and was looking at 4 wireless mic's to replace the 622's and a SM58 wireless T2 transmitter and T4V Receiver I have. I'd rather set-up one system rather than 2. Like I said.. didn't mean to start something... :argue: Thanks again!!!


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Thanks for all the advice... Didn't mean to cause a sqirmish...The 622's are a few years old now and I was just seeing if the 504's were as good as the 622's. (Are they?) You can say price is only $169 for the 4 so they can't be but who knows they might be close in quality as the 622's. Don't know until you ask... Might have made alot of advancements since they originally introduced... so why spend $329 when the 504's are about as good..

I do this just about 5-6 times a year (man's got to have a hobby) :) and was looking at 4 wireless mic's to replace the 622's and a SM58 wireless T2 transmitter and T4V Receiver I have. I'd rather set-up one system rather than 2. Like I said.. didn't mean to start something... :argue: Thanks again!!!



...Thanks a lot, sanj! ... Ha-Ha! ... In all honesty, I've only been running KJ & DJ shows for 26 years but I'm not a tech guru. Mainly because I was the guy who ran shows and only setup systems according to what I was taught (In>Out). However it worked for me and some of our 14 systems (back in the day). As for you and your question request, I can only tell you my experiences. If you are looking for a tech guru, I'm not the one. There's plenty here that are really good! For the "I'm the greatest KJ, listen to me and you will be successful and everyone else is an idiot?" That's not me but we have a few here! ... and they know it! :roll:

...By the way, if you do purchase that unit, please let me know how it works out for you. AGAIN, Good Luck!


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...If you're referring to the link I provided (U-504H UHF Wireless Microphone System with 4 Hand Held Mics), at a glance it appears to be a 622 system with 4 mics instead of 2. Which I would have thought would have been an upgraded model of the 622 (ability to use 4 instead of 2 mics)


Upgrade?? More like a downgrade. First of all, it is NOT "Diversity" like the 787. It only has two antennas, which means that two mics share one antenna. It does NOT have the LED displays on the transmitter (mics) and receiver. Like the 622 and the 787. The 787 has:

800 Selectable frequencies on each channel
True diversity operation for increased range/reliability, reducing dropouts
Automatic Frequency Scanning, Automatic transmitter setup
Range: Up to 600 feet ( 200 meters )

By comparison the 504 has:

4 Channel UHF Receiver with 4 Hand-held Microphones
Individual volume controls on each Channel
400 feet ( 150 Meters ) Range
One 1/4" Mixed output and four XLR Individual outputs

And the 622 blows this away also. How could you even think that this could possibly be an upgrade over the 622 or 787. Even without reading the specs, just by looking at it and the price of it, should tell you that it nothing but a toy, which may be fine for home use but not in the same league as the 622 or 787 which are designed for commercial use.

Although it doesn't always apply, in this case it does... "you get what you pay for". If you want a dynamite professional wireless system, then it's going to be the 622 or 787, end of story.

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...If you're referring to the link I provided (U-504H UHF Wireless Microphone System with 4 Hand Held Mics), at a glance it appears to be a 622 system with 4 mics instead of 2. Which I would have thought would have been an upgraded model of the 622 (ability to use 4 instead of 2 mics)


Upgrade?? More like a downgrade. First of all, it is NOT "Diversity" like the 787. It only has two antennas, which means that two mics share one antenna. It does NOT have the LED displays on the transmitter (mics) and receiver. Like the 622 and the 787.

The 787 has:
800 Selectable frequencies on each channel
True diversity operation for increased range/reliability, reducing dropouts
Automatic Frequency Scanning, Automatic transmitter setup
Range: Up to 600 feet ( 200 meters )

By comparison the 504 has:

4 Channel UHF Receiver with 4 Hand-held Microphones
Individual volume controls on each Channel
400 feet ( 150 Meters ) Range
One 1/4" Mixed output and four XLR Individual outputs

And the 622 blows this away also. How could you even think that this could possibly be an upgrade over the 622 or 787. Even without reading the specs, just by looking at it and the price of it, should tell you that it nothing but a toy, which may be fine for home use but not in the same league as the 622 or 787 which are designed for commercial use.

Although it doesn't always apply, in this case it does... "you get what you pay for". If you want a dynamite professional wireless system, then it's going to be the 622 or 787, end of story.


...Whew :roll: , I'm going to type a little slower so maybe you can read it a little better and comprehend EVERYTHING that I've tried to say before with a little more detailed explanation.

...With my first response to the Original Poster, I will admit that I was in a hurry on that particular day. It was also the first time that I've logged onto KS in awhile. I did and still do have no problem of admitting to being guilty for overlooking the part where he mentioned the GTD Model U-504H UHF in the original post. At that moment, I just noticed the interest in the 380-H system. "AT A GLANCE"

...So I googled it and realized that was the same model that I had tried last year. While at the Amazon site, I noticed an ad for the GTD U-504H UHF. Clicked it and "AT A GLANCE" noticed that it had 11 reviews with a 4.5 star rating, that it was UHF (not VHF like the 380-H system), that it had 4 mics with 2 antennas but no LED. So I quickly copied the link and pasted it to my first post. The part of me, stating that system looked like an upgrade to the 622 was in reference to the ability to use 4 mics instead of just 2.

...Typically, while I'm shopping for new equipment for myself, I do study the specs. I don't always rely on reviews but they can be part of the overall determining factor. As far as how could I have overlooked the specs? I never looked at them then and to this day, I still haven't! Therefore, how could I compare them to every little detail? Was only going by the original poster's inquire about the mics..... 4 vs. 2 and was thinking they POSSIBLY didn't want to spend over the $169.00 range. .... Again, "AT A GLANCE!" Oh yeah, I think someone here once said the 622's were "JUNK" Who was that? ....I think I'm done here ..... mic drop!

....Now come on Alan, don't get upset. I'm just messing with you but I did want to make sure you understood why I posted that link. Was just in a hurry and offering a link. 8)

...On a side note, and not trying to start another squabble, someone earlier stated the following, "The 380-H VHF Has One 1/4" Mixed output not like the UHF that has XLR for each channel, and is an entry level product." ...I would definitely agree with the entry level part but actually the 380-H VHF not only has a One 1/4" Mixed output but also 4 XLR outputs. And even though I stated that I tried them out and didn't like them, me and some friends were able to sing out of the individual mics with no cancellations. Just some hissing, humming, a drop-out every now and then with one particular channel. Perhaps a bad unit or cheap unit? I don't know?


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....Now come on Alan, don't get upset. I'm just messing with you but I did want to make sure you understood why I posted that link. Was just in a hurry...


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they are a step down.
the frequencies being set and non changeable can be quite an issue for mics as far as interferance is concerned.
if the 622 is doing good for you (which i assume it is), you would be better off buying a second one of those and having 4 good mics that way.

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