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isdreamz
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:12 pm |
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Thanks mckyj57 ! I think one of those system is what I need even though those speakers are huge for my living room :D. I will look for some smaller speakers. Thanks again.
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mckyj57
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:15 pm |
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isdreamz @ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:12 pm wrote: Thanks mckyj57 ! I think one of those system is what I need even though those speakers are huge for my living room :D. I will look for some smaller speakers. Thanks again.
The 12" speakers are about as small as you want to get IMHO. Any less and the bass will not carry a party. 10" are OK for practice and small parties, but you will be happier with bigger ones.
I mount my 12" speakers on the wall in my living room. It is kind of large, but it makes for a definite icebreaker when someone comes over!
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SingALong
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:22 am |
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Quote: Does the active studio monitor such as Wharfedale Diamond Pro 8.1 have the amp built in?
What is the compresser gate? What does it use for? Do I need one?
Thanks, --Tom
You won't really need the compressor/gate, they do help. Basically a compressor smooths out & keeps the volume on a more level pattern, a limiter is something you set & the signal will not get any louder than a specified point. A gate is something completely not needed at all in karaoke, it basically will keep all noise out - turn off the channel (essentially) until an actual signal that gets to a specified point then will turn on that channel allowing the signal to get to the mixer. You would use the compressor/limiter more geared on your vocal mics, but you can use them on the overall mix as well.
If the compressor/limiter is to help to protect the speakers, it will be a good idea to get one. I checked musician friends has the cheapest one for $99:
Alesis 3630 Dual-Channel Compressor/Limiter with Gate
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=182525
Any experience with these? Should I use this for MIC or the over all mixing sound? How do I set the proper limit? I am sure it is not a good idea to test the limit by try and error. BTW, I finally got the Lexicon MX200 to add external effect on my Behringer 802 mixer. Thanks to the board.
Thanks,
--Tom
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mckyj57
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:15 am |
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I don't know quite how you would hook up a compressor to a mixer like the 802. It doesn't have channel inserts, and I don't know any way to do it without an external mic preamp.
Perhaps Lonman or someone else has a solution, but I don't.
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isdreamz
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:14 pm |
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I came across this karaoke package and I think its good deal.
http://www.vnnmall.com/product_info.php?cPath=179&products_id=4698
Is BMB a good karaoke brand?
Now, can I hook up my new amplifier mixer to my receiver without damaging the receiver as well as the HT speakers ? Here's the setup I want:
Yamaha RX-663 ----> 5.1 HT system
BMB MA-3000KII -----> karaoke speakers
BMB MA-3000KII -----> Yamaha RX-663
The reason I want this setup is b/c I can use the HT speakers when Karaoke or watching DVDs. Please advise , thanks.
ND
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SingALong
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:29 pm |
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isdreamz @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:14 pm wrote: I came across this karaoke package and I think its good deal. http://www.vnnmall.com/product_info.php?cPath=179&products_id=4698Is BMB a good karaoke brand? Now, can I hook up my new amplifier mixer to my receiver without damaging the receiver as well as the HT speakers ? Here's the setup I want: Yamaha RX-663 ----> 5.1 HT system BMB MA-3000KII -----> karaoke speakers BMB MA-3000KII -----> Yamaha RX-663 The reason I want this setup is b/c I can use the HT speakers when Karaoke or watching DVDs. Please advise , thanks. ND
Hi,
I don't think you can connect BMB to Yamaha since both of them are pre-amp/processor plus amplifier built-in unless you can set up as the following:
1. Use BMB as pre-amp only
2. Use Yamaha as amp only
I might be wrong, so any senior member please chime in for idea.
I am trying to have similar setup as yours to be able to watch DVD and sing Karaoke at the same system, but still not figure out the optimum solution yet.
--Tom
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mckyj57
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:33 pm |
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isdreamz @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:14 pm wrote: I came across this karaoke package and I think its good deal. http://www.vnnmall.com/product_info.php?cPath=179&products_id=4698Is BMB a good karaoke brand? Never heard of them. It doesn't look like something I would buy. Quote: Now, can I hook up my new amplifier mixer to my receiver without damaging the receiver as well as the HT speakers ? Here's the setup I want:
Yamaha RX-663 ----> 5.1 HT system BMB MA-3000KII -----> karaoke speakers BMB MA-3000KII -----> Yamaha RX-663
The reason I want this setup is b/c I can use the HT speakers when Karaoke or watching DVDs. Please advise , thanks.
ND
I have no idea why you would want to use your home theater speakers at all. Perhaps someone else can speak to it, but there is no point in doing this that I know of.
Now if you wanted to hook up some MTX TP-112 speakers to the Speaker B output of the Yamaha receiver, and hook a Behringer 1202FX mixer to add microphones, using the TP-112 speakers only for karaoke, then you would have a reasonable karaoke PA setup for less than $350.00.
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isdreamz
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:15 pm |
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Quote: Now if you wanted to hook up some MTX TP-112 speakers to the Speaker B output of the Yamaha receiver, and hook a Behringer 1202FX mixer to add microphones, using the TP-112 speakers only for karaoke, then you would have a reasonable karaoke PA setup for less than $350.00.
Thanks mcky for pointing out a more simple & cheaper setup. Forgive me for being completely noob when it comes to sound. My Yamaha receiver has 7-channel 665W (95W x 7) so can it handle 2x300W MTX TP-112 you mentioned?
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isdreamz
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:30 pm |
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Quote: Now if you wanted to hook up some MTX TP-112 speakers to the Speaker B output of the Yamaha receiver, and hook a Behringer 1202FX mixer to add microphones, using the TP-112 speakers only for karaoke, then you would have a reasonable karaoke PA setup for less than $350.00.
Thanks mcky for pointing out a more simple & cheaper setup. Forgive me for being completely noob when it comes to sound. My Yamaha receiver has 7-channel 665W (95W x 7) so can it handle 2x300W MTX TP-112 you mentioned?
ND
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mckyj57
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:48 pm |
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isdreamz @ Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:30 pm wrote: Quote: Now if you wanted to hook up some MTX TP-112 speakers to the Speaker B output of the Yamaha receiver, and hook a Behringer 1202FX mixer to add microphones, using the TP-112 speakers only for karaoke, then you would have a reasonable karaoke PA setup for less than $350.00. Thanks mcky for pointing out a more simple & cheaper setup. Forgive me for being completely noob when it comes to sound. My Yamaha receiver has 7-channel 665W (95W x 7) so can it handle 2x300W MTX TP-112 you mentioned?
Most home theater receivers at that wattage will push two channels at 120w for 8 ohms.
The program power rating for the TP-112 is 150W, but I know from experience that 100w/channel drives them well. I own a pair, and have done gigs with a 110w/ch home theater receiver as the driver. I don't use that for gigs any more, but I do still use those speakers and my Pioneer HT amp in my living room for practice.
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Partydjz
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:26 am |
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I'm new to this forum but not to sound systems and karaoke. Not sure of that brand but just the term "digital echo" turned me off immediately. So many companies market the term "karaoke" and try to sell sound equipment. If you're going to spend that much money go with a trusted brand. Especially with the mixer and amp. The speakers look like they're designed to imitate bose, and the amp specifications are not even shown. I'd stay away from that system if I were you.
A modest priced good name powered mixer would work well for you, many come with digital effects which you'll enjoy experimenting with. We own Phonic gear mentioned earlier in this thread and even though it's definitely not high end gear it should do much better than that BMB gear, never even heard of them.
A good powered mixer would have several inputs for mics and components like dvd, cd, karaoke and computer audio. Would also have equilizer for sound, preferably on each channel, to seperate the vocal EQ from the music, a couple hundred watts of power, and digital effects for your vocals. Then all you would need is a decent pair of monitors and your music source (dvd, computer, karaoke player).
As for a retailer I'd stay away from that VnnMall.com period. Musicians friend and Pro Sound and Stage lighting are good companies to deal with and most of what they carry is good quality. Zounds is another which is on the east coast. Carvin in California only sells their own gear and it's very good.
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Petersmith
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I actually think this is a decent idea. Wouldn't be used by all characters though. But might not be a bad addition at the start to get some extra money.Kind of makes me think though, contacting to Pawn Shop is easy to forward the money.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:57 pm |
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Wow an 8 year old thread, zombie apocalypse
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jdmeister
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:27 am |
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What ^^ said..
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TopherM
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:02 am |
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What if the guy from 8 years ago still hasn't made up his mind and is just looking for that final bit of confirmation before he pulls the trigger on a 2008 HiFi preamp? Think of all the $$ he'll save by buying the 2008 model in 2016. Genius!
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DNBass
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:03 pm |
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Old thread, but somewhat similar to my situation a few months back (as some of you are aware that provided feedback on this very topic I'm still very happy with what I ended up with, and, I also learned about mixers and setting gain in the process. I guess everyone has different priorities to balance. But if OP was here today, I'd say set aside the funds a bit higher budget and separate from the HT stuff. Yes, I use to do that with HT separates, once you go the Powered-PA / mixer route you don't want to go back.
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