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Have any of you KJ's been replaced by an Orange Door system yet?

What's an Orange Door System? Is that anything like the Karaoke Jukeboxes that some bars have?

Never heard of it, what is it?

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Yea it's a real thing: Orange Door Music Video Inc.
6185 Magnolia Avenue - Suite 164,
Riverside, CA 92506

But what is it?

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Automated dj/karaoke/trivia systems. Not worried. Only 8,000 songs that they advertised for karaoke and the fact no one will be there adjusting your sound is a big part of karaoke. I can see the trivia thing maybe making a dent on some karaoke nights as some kj's here (on KS) have already dropped karaoke in favor of trivia systems and state they do much better with them.

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John Taffer uses it in most of his rescued bars. That or touchtunes.

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They were at the national bar show in Vegas this year. I was looking at their trivia program just to check my competition and it crashed twice during with the CEO doing the demo. They may have the content but they won't replace me with it. Their biggest selling point was licensed music and music videos running on all your TV screens but the majority of music videos today you'd be reluctant to run because of unedited audio and visual content. Plus most of the songs suck.

If you get replaced by this system you need to reconsider you vocational choice.

It's all been done before. It's kind of like saying that a jukebox replaces a live band. It most certainly does not.

If a machine could replace a host, wouldn't there be late night TV shows with robot hosts? Radio shows? Game shows? Why are there human hosts of the Oscars and Emmys?

A bar up the street from me has jukebox karaoke every Thursday. You put $1.00 in the box, it queues you up to sing a song through a mic wired to the box. First off, almost nobody sings. There is no "encouragement" from a host or even a captive crowd. Are they going to stare at the box waiting to see what happens next? When people do sing, it tends to be the same 2-3 over and over, and obviously the machine can't police a rotation, so the same person usually sings 2-3 times in a row. There is, again, no audience or reason to applaud. The people singing do it for themselves and no one else in the bar pays attention. Why would they, it's not a formal, organized event like a hosted karaoke show. It's a jukebox that you can sing along with.

So, any given Thursday "karaoke" night at this bar, 3-5 unique people will each sing 1-5 songs each, usually one after another. There is no audience, and they all just go about their business and don't pay attention. There is no applause. Of those 3-5 people, maybe 2-3 actually come to this "karaoke" often. For the others, it's just a novelty that they will try once and never be back.

Tell me how that even remotely resembles a hosted karaoke show. At my show, I have about 30-40 regulars, singers and non-singers, that attend almost every show, along with dozens more semi-regulars. I have more non-singer regulars than singers. At any given Saturday night show, there will be 100-150 people in the bar, 40-50 of which are there JUST for the karaoke. About 60 or so sit in the "audience" area, and are a very captive audience, singing along with the songs, clapping for the good and bad singers alike, etc. Of the others hanging out at the bar playing pool or darts, sitting at the bar, watching sports, etc., a good number of them get involved as well.

So, does the bar want a novelty machine that might make them $20-30 a night, or a karaoke show that brings in hundreds of dollars more than it costs?

They are not the same thing. A jukebox will never replace a host.

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