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if someone would give a positive reason to hire trump. they would be the first.
i think both of them are not fit to lead.
but if anything, the Hillary supporters have given reasons she is ready for the job and to date 100% of trump supporters have given "Hillary ******" "Hillary ******" " trump train, get on or get run over".
nothing at all but negative about her, basically "he is not her so he should win".
as if a rigged two party system was not bad enough, now we have playground "he/she is a doody head" going on.

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Some more great facts about our election process:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29

Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare"

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years .

Did those that voted Blue have their lives improved in the last 8 years? If it did improve how hard did you have to work to get there?

I am generally not publicly political, and I am more than a little uncomfortable discussing this on a karaoke board. I have always been very careful to keep my political opinions to myself. However, I can't let this pass. Regardless of politics, this conclusion is entirely fallacious. It plays upon false stereotypes about urban versus rural populations. I won't get into just how false these assertions are, because that's beyond the scope of my point.

I think most people would agree with me that we are sick and tired of political divisiveness. But this is something different. Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, or neither, these naked attempts to pit Americans one against the other, and to pretend that anyone is somehow less American, if not less human, and therefore less entitled to have an opinion about how the country should be run, than someone who makes more money or owns more property or has whiter skin or whose family has lived here longer--that strikes me as behavior that far more apt to destroy this country than anything quoted in mrmarog's post.

Sometimes the truth really hurts doesn't it? My grand parents came to America and was given ONLY an opportunity .... just as so many of us were given. With that opportunity came respect for our country and its laws. When someone lives in and/or enters our country with only the intent of taking advantage of our generosity and the entitlements given then we need to be concerned as to what there real intent is.

When someone votes, it should be with some knowledge as to what they are really voting for. When votes are gathered, mostly because of their neediness and not because of their understanding of what their vote does for the health of our country, then we need to rethink some things.

If we don't start discussing were are country is going on every occasion that we can, then we will never reach the masses and make them aware. Look at Greece and see what entitlements did for them. How about Argentina, Venzuela, Cuba, etc. I hope we as Americans can get back to being one happy family, but first we have to keep our system alive and well. So far it hasn't been going so well

Honesty also needs to start at the top and show by example.

There are two things I learned never to discuss in public: religion and politics. Why? because nothing good ever happens; just bound to offend someone. People are different and believe different things.

Hence my comment from karaokelan’s post when he mentioned Donald Trump. I replied with two emoticons, followed by “Not gonna touch this discussion with a ten-foot pole.”

I value both sides of the spectrum; weigh out the benefits of two options that will help me make the best decision. I’ll leave it at that.

@ mrmarog. You’re back! I hope you had a great time on your vacation with your family. Thanks again for dropping by to see my show.

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New Emails in Clinton Case Came From Anthony Weiner’s Electronic Devices F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin, a top aide to Mrs. Clinton, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

The FBI said it would not revisit the email case so what is this all about then? Of course she is innocent

Do you think that the FBI would make this announcement 11 days before the election if they found nothing? I am not a betting man (have never put a quarter in a slot machine or bought a Lotto ticket) but the $100 bet is sounding tempting.

Read Here: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... &ocid=iehp

And now Attorney General Lynch essentially ‘Pleads Fifth’ on Secret Iran ‘Ransom’ Payments. Our highest ranking legal official is not cooperating with an investigation of the ransom money!!! We are the laughing stock of the world.

Attorney General Loretta Lynch has formally refused to answer questions from Congress about the Obama Administration’s huge cash payments to Iran. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Rep. Mike Pompeo (R-KS) described Lynch’s response as “unacceptable,” and said she has chosen to “essentially plead the Fifth.”

Pokemon is nothing compared to our government when it comes to "cramping".

It's so quiet in here.

PS. @ Karaokelan: Do you still think Weiner has no importance in Hillary's world?

Thought this was hilarious...

Check out CNN's website today. One of the secondary headlines reads:

"BIDEN ON WEINER- NOT A BIG FAN"

i know of NO MAN that is a big fan of havin' his weiner bitten on!

Pokemon is shrinking (in popularity) and Weiner is growing (in notoriety) I bet I get censored for such a suggestive thought. Twelve ladies on the forum will probably file a lawsuit against me because they can't sleep safely at night anymore.

Yes, it would be considered a thought provoking sentence. A few ladies you mentioned are now being represented by Gloria Allred, the celebrity activist and civil rights lawyer.

Quote: “Pokemon is shrinking (in popularity) and Weiner is growing (in notoriety).” In all fairness, it was Hillary who said “When they go low, we go high.”

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Pokemon continues to have nothing on Hillary when it comes to "cramping"

Bret Baier reported:

According to FBI sources, we can put to rest any belief that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email server was not hacked.

Reporting on the FBI findings Wednesday recent findings of the federal agency’s probe into Hillary Clinton’s emails came away with a startling discovery.

“We’ve learned that there is a confidence from these sources that her server had been hacked". “And that it was a 99 percent accuracy that it had been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and they believe things have been taken from that.”

Further new findings:

1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.

2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.

3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.

I had a private email server for 15 years.

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-Chris

Um...I believe we are all missing the connection...unless you are declaring that you are a Wiener......

Just saying that private mail servers in and of themselves are not bad. i don't think ANYONE in the government should be using them, but if they do, so long as they are being secured properly, it doesn't make much difference. Email can be passed from server to server to reach a destination. The servers email passes through can be a combination of private and public.

Of more importance is the security of the devices you read your mail with. Particularly if copies of email stay on the device and other people also have access to the same device.

Hillary is not the ONLY government official to use a private mail server.

Many DHS officials used private mail servers until 2014
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... ate-e-mail

Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, Karl Rove, Andrew Cuomo, - All used private mail servers
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2135674

Jeb Bush
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jeb-bush-own ... ail-server


As I have been telling just about everyone for 20 years - If it is connected to the Internet, it's not private.

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-Chris

Did you have government security clearances, and send or receive top secret/classified info?

Did you ever check (thoroughly) to see if you had been hacked?

Would it have mattered if you were hacked, and would it have endangered your family or neighbors?

Were you secretary of the state during that time?

Were you running for the presidency?

Did you have a charitable organization comingled with your government business?

Did you destroy 1/2 of your emails AFTER a request to turn them ALL over.

If you answered 'Yes" to most of these your analogy would apply

Do you believe Hillary is the ONLY high ranking government representative to have used a private email server?

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jeb-bush-own ... ail-server

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2135674

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Do you believe Hillary is the ONLY government representative to have lost emails?

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/geor ... 97373.html

NOTE - these are respectable news organizations, not conspiracy sites.

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I don't want to imply that it isn't a big deal that Hillary did what she did, but most people don't understand why it's a big deal other than to parrot Trumps. There are MUCH bigger issues regarding the next President than whether one used a private email server when they shouldn't have (Trump has a private email server right now and he is running for President).

Trump is a clown, a caricature, plain and simple and wholly unqualified to be President. Outside of having zero political experience....

He is a racist. He is a misogynist. He wants to restrict the rights of women and put legal penalties on those who have abortions. He promotes nationalistic policies and isolationism in a world that is clearly moving the opposite way in just about every aspect. He wants us to believe he "knows more about ISIS than the generals". He ripped off thousands of students with Trump University (and he will get his day in court, too!). He has ripped off contractors that worked for him. He STILL hasn't released his taxes (Prediction - He never will - even if he somehow manages to become President). He wants to block entrance into this country based on religious beliefs (I am an atheist and I know this is wrong!). He wants to cut taxes on the rich and push all the burden to the.....not rich (unless I am missing something, every single person on this forum is likely in the latter category). He hasn't paid taxes in 20 years. Oh yeah....that wall.

But Hillary used a private email server, and to date, she has been cleared of any wrong doing by the FBI. And not just of that but she has been cleared in every other witch hunt thrown at her. She is the single most vetted person to ever run for President.

She also has spent decades fighting for the rights of women and children. She was First Lady. She was Secretary of State. A US Senator. She has a Foundation that has done significant good for women and children and by virtue of that, the entire world.

Trump hasn't done a single notable good thing for anyone but himself.

Is Hillary snow white, squeaky clean? I don't believe for a moment she is. No politician is. Compared to Trump though it's night and day. I will still take her as President over any unqualified, pig any day of the week.

I am not expecting you or anyone else to change their mind. Yours is likely just as made up as mine is (I have already voted). But I have yet to see any anti-Hillary person come up with any specific reasons or plans Trump has to be pro-Trump other than he is anti-Hillary.

The pro-Hillary people seem to know why they are Pro-Hillary. The only reason most pro-Trump people can come up with for being pro-Trump is that Trump is anti-Hillary. They are too so that must be good enough to make a good President.

When this all comes out in the wash, Trump is going to lose and still win. He will have received oodles of publicity toward starting the new Trump Media empire that will resemble something like an ugly child of a Fox News and National Enquirer one night stand.....until it goes bankrupt like so many other Trump Ventures where he passes the burden on to other people.

But Hillary is the bad apple......

I have to admit, I am completely stymied as to why anyone but a rich, white man would ever vote for Trump. He has offended every other group out there.

I get that the Affordable Care Act didn't turn out the way anyone hoped. I get that we need immigration reform. I get that we need create jobs. I get that wages are flat. I get that the 99% are suffering. I get that people are angry. But Hillary didn't cause any of it and she is not going to just continue with all of those programs and policies without course corrections.

So vote your conscience. Just be ready for the consequences. I voted for Hillary. I think she is going to be a great President. But I am not sitting back on my (@$%&#!) with the belief that everything will be roses and wine for 8 years. I have a Plan A, B, C, D, and now an E. No matter who becomes president, I know that the only person I can 100% count on to take care of me is....me. Trump won't. Hillary won't. Bernie wouldn't have either. Just me. *I* will be okay no mater what. I am worried about my children, and future generations. Trump will be dead in 10 years (another prediction). He doesn't give a (@$%&#!).

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-Chris

Oh come on Chris, you know ANY news source that isn't up Trumps (@$%&#!) is for Hillary! And EVERY news source otherwise is supporting Hillary only. Remember ALL news sources are against Trump!

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First of all Chris, Thank you for speaking up. If we don't discuss this stuff whenever we can during these critical times, the facts from both side may never be seen.

What is so different about Hillary's situation is that she had ALL of her emails sent to her private server, whereas your other examples had one server for private business, and the dot-gov business went to government servers. That is quite different and you know it!

The email server is not what Americans are upset about.... it is the hidden agenda that she was able to cover up because she had total control of all her emails. If the FBI was able to find only a few (110) classified emails on her server, my big question is:

"where did she receive the high priority government messages"

Is she trying to convince the FBI that during her time as secretary of state she never sent or received any classified emails? If she received and sent all messages via her private server and she never had any (other than the 110) top secret/classified information, then how did she do her job? Maybe that is why she didn't respond to the urgent calls from Benghazi

Can you explain why all her email discussions about Benghazi completely stopped just a couple of days after the incident? She had to eliminate the paper trail, which she had complete control to do.

Chris, I can go on and on about why she had a private server, but the bottom line is that she is a conniving, lying, two-faced (one public and one private) ineffective (30 years of nothing worthwhile), and incompetent. She has been exposed, through WikiLeaks, just how commingled her life as secretary of state and the Clinton Foundation really was.

What is amazing is how very little coverage is given to the WikiLeaks emails from John Pedasta. What is even stranger is that no one is questioning their validity and accuracy other than Donna Brazile.

Trump is far from a gem. He has plenty of flaws, but incompetence is not one of them. His past treatment of women (not proven) was in the past and clearly in very poor taste. Hillary's treatment of women, through support of countries with some of the most abusive displays of women's rights, is ongoing and widespread. Simply put she will take money from anywhere in exchange for favors (pay for play).

A quote attributed to many (falsely attributed to Winston Churchill):

"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain". I am over 35, how about you?

If you're not living your life according to oversimplistic aphorisms at 20, you have no heart. If you're still living your life according to oversimplistic aphorisms at 40, you have no head.

My mother used to always say "tomorrow is another day"* in German at bedtime. She was 100 when she died (last year). Where did she fall in your example.

* Margaret Mitchel Gone With The Wind. BTW I doubt if my mother ever saw the movie.