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My, you're awfully fragile.

I'm just testing the water. I decided it's not good enough to drink.

mrmarog - I will present the same challenge to you that I present to every other anti-Hillary person -

Make a case for Trump without mentioning Hillary Clinton or the Democratic party.

What is he actually going to do and how is he going to do it?

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It is not that I am anti-Hillary as much as I am anti-corruption and pro truth.

Trump will get our illegal immigration under control (a wall, deportation, incarceration, defunding, documentation, etc)

Trump will fix the healthcare system by cost reduction and dramatically decreasing the administrative fees, and promote competition.

Trump will increase our military strength and let the world know that we are the defenders of equality (for men, WOMEN, and children), and when a red line is drawn it will mean something.

Trump will renegotiate our trade agreements and that will encourage US companies to stay in America. If US companies want to leave the US, they will be burdened with the same tariffs as if they were a foreign country when bringing goods back in.

Trump will properly vet all who enter the US from known terrorist harboring countries. He will not be afraid of using the phrase "radical Islamic extremists" to those that choose to kill US citizens in the name of Allah.

Trump will take a reasonable approach to political correctness so we it will stop controlling what free people can do and think. Majority should rule and vast majority should definitely rule. We need to face the reality that we cannot please everyone all the time. Trump believes PC is ruining our nation.

Trump is strong believer in our constitution and will defend its seemingly God inspired wisdom.

Trump will simplify our tax code. This is something that should have been done decades ago. Like he said "No one knows the tax code better than me". Use that phrase any way you want, but understand is the first step to fixing.

Trump will put the education of our children back in state control. No one knows a child's needs better than someone nearer to them.... that would not be our federal government.

Local law enforcement will be given and allowed to use the tools available to ensure the safety of their community. Trump will be the "law and order candidate".

This is just the tip of the iceberg Chris. Hillary's goal would be to increase (read import) the number of needy citizens and then bus them to the voting booths. Her message would be "Vote for me because I am for the poor and down trodden" (every four years like clockwork). Now that is very sad and I hope we never get to that point.

He SAYS he will do all that, there has been not one laid out plan on how he's going to achieve any of it.

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Exactly. Furthermore, he has ZERO experience doing any of these things. And I have no faith he can accomplish anything at all given his business record.

Anti-Corruption? Pro-Truth? Since Trump will never release his tax returns, we cannot have either with him. Not to mention the court cases for Trump University, and sexual misconduct. And we already know he uses the Trump Foundation as an ATM to pay personal and legal debts.

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Trump has zero experience at doing it the "government way".... which is more than enough reason to elect him. So far the "government way" has not been so effective. How about trying to do it the "business way", and start running our country like a business that has to make a profit, or at least spend only what its collects.

Currently we have a national debt of nearly 20 trillion dollars, and an unfunded liability (projected entitlements) of somewhere between 125 and 175 trillion dollars.

To get into the Top 1%. It took just under $429,000 to make into this elite group in 2013, according to the latest data from the Internal Revenue Service. A year earlier, Americans had to have about $435,000 in adjusted gross income to be part of the Top 1%.

The ranks of the wealthy grew in 2013, with 1.38 million households making it into the Top 1%, up from 1.36 million a year earlier. While their incomes are high, they also pay a lot in taxes. The Top 1% earned 19% of all income reported in 2013, but paid nearly 38% of the federal income taxes. CNNMoney (New York) CNN --> Clinton News Network

First published December 29, 2015: 2:39 PM ET

Furthermore Paul Ryan argues that more taxes on the rich don’t add up to much when compared with the deficit and debt, Ryan said on NBC’s "Meet the Press."

"If you took all the income from every millionaire in America today, it would run the government for about four months." he said.

The last president that didn't know the government way led us to the great depression.... But they do say history tends to repeat itself.

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That would be Herbert Hoover, a Republican. He was also an engineer and geologist (Hoover Dam, St Lawrence Seaway)

His first humanitarian effort was selfless and during WWI he helped 120000 stranded American tourists return home from Europe when the hostilities broke out, and coordinated the delivery of food and supplies to citizens of Belgium after that country was overrun by Germany. He was a "Community Organizer" of sorts.

President Woodrow Wilson appointtd Hoover head of the Food Administration, which diverted American agricultural products overseas to American troops. Hoover next served as head of the American Relief Administration, which helped post-WWI Europe feed its people. President Warren G. Harding then picked Hoover to be his secretary of commerce, as did President Calvin Coolidge after him. Gee more "Community Organizing"

Nothing he did was business related after WWI. Not a good comparison with Trump, but he had a little in common with Obama 'Pre-President Years".

I'm sorry. I really don't want to comment on this, but I can't let this pass, because it seems like a lot of gobbledegook that sounds good but actually has nothing behind it.

What do you mean by "cost reduction"? Whose costs are going to be reduced? What costs are going to be reduced?

What "administrative fees" are going to be "dramatically decreased"? For example, the cost ratio for traditional Medicare and Medicaid is about 3%; for Medicare Advantage (in which the government pays private insurers to cover some Medicare recipients) it's about 9%; for private insurers under PPACA (Obamacare) it's limited to 20%; under the pre-Obamacare system there were no limits, and insurers frequently had cost ratios in the 30-40% range. What are the "administrative fees" you're referring to? What techniques will be used to lower them? Who will benefit from those fees being lowered?

How will competition be "promoted"? Are we talking about doctors and hospitals competing for patients? Private insurers competing for patients? Private insurers competing for government dollars we're spending on Medicare and Medicaid?

As far as I'm concerned, you can vote for whomever you like, and you can use whatever rationalization lets you sleep at night. But if you are going to put this kind of thing down in writing as a "reason" for what you're doing, IF you want to convince anyone who puts the slightest thought into these things, you're going to have to do better.

I learned in life never to discuss politics for the obvious answer. It’s all the above. It can cause conflicts and easily offend someone. Like the rotation being discussed in another thread, similar positions that are held tightly by many who have strong convictions. Everyone has strong opinions.

Politics can be a very divisive topic; hence I refrain from talking about the subject even in a casual way. Predictably, discussions of politics often get heated very quickly and discord ensue. No amount of argumentation will change one’s mind.

We don’t know if any of these candidates would make a better president, just as there’s no guarantee that any of their campaign promises will actually be kept. In 4 days, the 2016 presidential election will likely prove to be the most important election of our, and our children’s (and their children’s) lives. A lot is at stake: economy, global warming, employment, health care, jobs, terrorism, immigration, lgbt, roe vs. wade, supreme court appointment, war on drugs, the military, etc. Our vote matters. It’s our opportunity to have a voice in deciding what direction our country is headed.

May the most qualified presidential candidate who will run our country and hopefully bring stability in a turbulent world for the next 4 years (or eight) win!

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And you can tell a mans political beliefs by the way they run their rotation!

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Since he won't release his tax returns, we don't really know what kind of business man he is.

I am a businessman. I hire people that are qualified and/or have proven capabilities and social skills. I will take a chance on someone with no experience provided they can show value in some other way. Particularly with regard to having social skills.

Trump has neither. He is a narcissistic, ego maniacal buffoon (deja vu).

But beyond my personal opinion....

There is only one newspaper that has endorsed him and it isn't worth mentioning. So he really has zero.
The very business people he is supposed to be representing don't endorse him either.
Top republicans don't endorse him.
His own running mate disagrees with him on key positions.

So how is it that some of the smartest, most successful, and respected individuals and organizations in our country denounce Trump and people ignore that?

Prediction - The November surprise is going to be the much larger than expected (by Trump supporters anyway) margin of victory that Hillary Clinton will have over Trump.

Prediction - Trump cannot take a loss, much less an overwhelming loss. He can't cover it up via a tax scheme and hidden tax returns. It will be a very public and humiliating loss and blow to his ego. The tantrum he is going to throw will be just as dangerous as his platform because he called into question the integrity of American democracy and our voting system. His flame out will be spectacular. The fallout for our country could be horrific.

Think people are at odds now? Just wait.

Finally, and this is a bit of a side note.

The last 8 years have been fraught with veiled racism against Obama.
The next 8 will likely be fraught with veiled misogyny against Hillary.

If one wants to "Make America Great Again", how about addressing the basic issues that have plagued this country and the world since the dawn of mankind.

All men are created equal, they just aren't treated equally AFTER they are created.

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...just a note.....Trump did declare bankruptcy four times...just saying

It's just so much easier to throw insults at people who don't agree with you. Yes! I believe in Law and Order...including the singing order. The LAW should be applied equally to everyone. If you engage in Pay for Play you should go directly to jail without collecting $200 We all seem to frown at the practice of bribing the KJ to get to sing sooner but many people have no issue with a candidate's husband getting a million dollar gift from someone looking to get some face time with a former president.

Not to worry. Hillary will either get pardoned by Obama or maybe she'll be able to pardon herself?

declaring bankruptcy is 100% legal and people file for bankruptcy every day. just sayin'

Doesn't matter who anyone votes for, in reality. Electoral supercede popular votes.

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and major corporations and dark money supercede Electoral. Hillary won the office 8 years ago. like it or not, we can all vote for Trump and she will win.

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I think you had better put your money where your mouth is when it comes to putting things down in writing and not backing it up with actions. Your credibility has been going down for months.

BTW I feel I have already done my job by getting some you to actually discuss this very important topic at this very important time. Thank you for finally speaking up.