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Oh f*ck, another law suit. Anyhow that’s not the point. The limit of 0.08 is just a number. If an officer of the law suspects you being intoxicated, he can take you in, you don’t have to be over the limit. On another note, what would the reason be for a lawsuit?

That’s the law, drunk in public, and it does not give the cops too much power, they just enforce the law. Why do you have to get drunk in the first place? Can’t you just enjoy a few drinks without getting stupidly drunk?

A Disco? , that is sooooo 80’s!  I guess you have a lot of Cleanex tissues and hand lotion as well.

There are simple tests like the touch your nose or walk the line.

Assumption is the mother of all F*ck-up’s. Most people don’t have all the symptoms you just mentioned.  You are just trying to justify 1% of the population. Why ask so many questions? Let the cops pick them up, and apologize later if you made a mistake.

It’s normally to late then.

If I can save 1 life by “violating” you “rights” then I really don’t give a $hit about your bruised little ego.

ANOTHER f*cking lawsuit! What is up with the people just trying to sue someone?  What is up with using words like “lawsuit” and “unconstitutional”?

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Careful now, Next Texas will be the first to have alcohol  Free bars........... Imagine that for business.

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When given an issue, what guidelines do you go by when deciding that privacy and constitutional rights can be superseded by other regulations?

Arresting people in a bar for being drunk is like arresting someone in a mall for shopping. I don't drink I I think this is stupid.

I wish they were in my bar Wed. night. I had a guy knock over a stool 3 times and fall under the bar at least 4 times from being so drunk. He tried to start a fight as soon as he walked in the door already blasted. The owner didn't care because he knows the guy doesn't drive. I asked him twice to kick him out with no luck.

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My guidelines are very simple actually:

Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment IV - Search and seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment XVIII - Liquor abolished. Ratified 1/16/1919. Repealed by Amendment XXI, 12/5/1933. History
1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.
2. The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

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OK, so where are the other 24 Amendements?  

Pay PARTICULAR attention to IX, X, and XXI in this situation!!

Edit: I would also add that IMHO, your citing of Amendment I is more than relevant here...the "lawsuits" that you disparage would be an attempt to "petition the government for redress of grievances"...the grievance in this case being an agency of the government (State government, in this case) that has gone a little too far in their zeal.

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not sure if ALL agree with me but i think we should hang up Shyguy by the B--s...
not sure who u r but man u suck the life out of people.....go get drunk r something, so i can sue ur A--......you take care now ya hear?

By people filing lawsuits this challenges the legal system and forces laws to be changed...sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad...There is a process...Precedents need to be set and laws governing this type of activity need to be more defined.....

There has to be a measurement system in place and right now there is not..Applying one set of laws for a different situation is not right IMO....Enforcing vague laws are dangerous to all parties involved...Not just the ones that are directly involved...it affects all of us.....

I don't beleive in frivoulous lawsuits...People that slip on a wet spot in a store...A person that spills hot coffee on themselves etc....but when you have a situation that needs to be clarified and precidence set, YES....By all means use the legal system to accomplish that......


<edit>  I feel compelled to remind everyone of a lawsuit that was filed some 30+ years ago that continues to set precidence in all of our states...It is still challenged to this day....Please keep in mind I do not want to discuss this case, nor will I.  I just wanted to point out how filing a lawsuit can actually change things...I think a lot of people IMO forget that a lawsuit can be a very powerful tool in our great country....

With all that being said

Roe vs Wade


A challenge can take many forms...whether it be by lawsuit, protest...etc....Can anyone imagine where we would all be now if Rosa Parks had just moved to the back of the bus???

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WooHoo..... I'm in on the invite. Move over Rich, cause I'm gonna share the bed too, I don't like sleeping on couches, and I'm sure not bunkin' in the same room as all those unruly men!!   I'll make sure and bring lots of beer, so you can sleep where you fall.......


Wait, in TEXAS, that MIGHT get me arrested!! And I'd live out the nightmare my dad told me about.

And, now that I'm "on topic".......





That is where the real unfairness of it would come in. I could sit beside my husband, he could have 6 to my 1.... and I would be the first hauled off for "public drunk". For me, to drink- anything (literally) over a beer every hour or so.... means to get "drunk". Atleast, what would LEGALLY be considered "drunk" by state law.  I may not be "stumbling around"... but it would certainly throw me over the limit. Some men, can hold liquor better, and drink all night and still walk straight- not appearing to be "legally drunk".  So under this law, for me to have 4-5 beers during a complete karaoke show could get me thrown in jail. So no, some of us can't "enjoy a few drinks without getting drunk". Atleast a BIT drunk.

 Not fair to the little guy at all.

And don't bite my A$$ for that comment, it's NOT like I go out getting drunk all the time, I'm just stating a point.

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It just amazes me that some people can get in to conversations, start "quoting" the constitution and still sound like .....

The issue is not getting drunk in a bar or anything about drinking.  The issue is the government coming into an establishment and randomly picking people who they believe are violating certain laws.

Drinking is legal.  Being in public is legal.  Do you have the right to get drunk and act like an a$$.  Sure you do as long as you don't "interfere" with other's peoples drunk.  Do you have the right to drive in that condition?  absolutely not.  

I agree with ok what now. Why does shy guy have to be so vicious in his attacks on people's comments, yet when a comment is made about buy a sense of humor, he gets offended.  

i smell double standard.

My  wife, Isis, is absolutely right in the law suit thing.  You don't have to sue for money, you can sue for cause.  Which is perfectly acceptable!

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I am right there with you Lil Mizz...I don't go out to get drunk but I do have a small frame and I imagine I do go over the legal limit very quickly, just based on my size....It's not like I am doing shots and carrying on all the time...But then I take Rich with me so that I can have a few drinks, have fun and not worry about killing myself or someone else on the way home....If I have felt that I was over the .08 limit I have had people come get me, taken a cab etc....I have also taken my share of people who were over the limit home as well.....

I don't feel that we are all DRUNKS because we like to go out and socialize and have a few adult beverages....But the reality is that we do have to be careful with going over that limit and because people of smaller size have a lower tolerance they have to be especially careful and can go over the limit very quickly even with a beer an hour.....

I don't know about anyone here, but I have left a beer to sit for an hour and it gets even more gross when it it warm (fyi, I don't like beer).  But I will have one occasionally...

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Well, the issue here is about "getting drunk in a bar, or drinking"..... If you're sitting in a bar, sipping ice water, and listening to the juke box, this "newly twisted law" is not going to apply to you.

Though, I do know what you're saying..... you're looking more at the "our god dayum government" side of this.

But, I'm not gonna be one of those who point the finger at the white house for every law that goes awry.... I'm sure this new thing happening in Texas is NOT a direct order from Bush.

This thing they're doing IS stupid. It doesn't make sense. Police patroling the parking lot to see who wobbles to their car/down the street walking/trying to mount a bicycle seat...... I can see that. But coming INTO the bar to say "Oops, you're getting drunk, you might do something unruly, we best haul you off to jail before you DO..." is unfair and unjust. It totally blows to hail the "innocent until proven guilty" theory.



To each his own, it's not the first time someone has stated their opinion so baldly, and certainly wont be the last:



And I've heard THAT one somewhere before.  

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Yeah, they have "light" beer.... but they need to make a "lightweight" beer for us little people, hahaha. Maybe 4 ounce cans or something? (like those tiny half size Pepsi cans you can buy at some stores)  :rofl4:

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Excellent idea on the lightweight beer......We should be on American Inventor with that one.......  :beermates:

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They already MAKE flyweight beer...O'Douls, Coors Cutter, Kingsbury, etc...but that's NO fun!!    :no:  :no:  :no:

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Yeah, and why not just go to the bar and sniff empty cans and get the same effect?  LOL

I said "lightweight"..... not "flyweight"..... give us a little credit for being SOMEwhat able to handle liquor.  :D

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That is non alch beer.....You might as well drink something that taste good like a soft drink or fruit juice.......

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I know, I remember when my dad was trying to quit drinking..... I would have Coors Cutters in the cupboard, and when he went off the wagon, after he had one or two (he ALWAYS poured it in a glass).... I'd start refilling it with the Cutters.  It kept a night of music & beer from turning into a 3 day whirligig.

It does taste real though.

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I wasn't recommending it!!  Near-beer almost always has a burnt after-taste that ruins the experience anyway, not to mention the buzz-kill.

Is 3.2 beer still around?  The "low-alcohol" stuff?  Didn't there used to be a brand called "LA", for "Low Alcohol"?

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Hey BIlly.

<had to edit>     .  I'm getting like Lil miss attitude now.

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