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Danny I'm not sure where you are getting your MTU info but you are wrong about the registration issue.

It appears you invest a great deal of time downing software choices other than
RoxBox. Do you own stock or have a vested interest in that company? If not it sure seems that way.

I have no problem with someone that is "High" on their program and promote it because of that. However I do have a problem when they attempt to tear down other products in the process.

In this thread alone you downed 4 major software programs Karawin, Tricerasoft, PCDJ and MTU, and in countless other threads you have done the same thing. All of the other programs out there other than RoxBox all have there strong points and weak points every software does,but that does not make them bad choices.

If you choose to zero in on the weaknesses of other products to justify your decision to purchase RoxBox then that is ok. But please dont post them on these forums to assist you in that process. One day you will have to face the facts...people are going to make different decisions than you for different reasons than you.

We use to be able to discuss software choices on this forum with people seeking information without this sort of stuff happening. Now anyone but RoxBox users have to get jabbed in the ribs repeatedly on a weekly basis with your comments.

Oh well.....there goes the neighborhood.  By the way did I get RoxBox in here enough times for ya?  LMAO  LMAO

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Scott

Your show pc should NEVER be a pc you go online with, and it should ONLY have the software you NEED installed on it.

I installed win2k (did have to go to the latest service pack 4, as SP2 still had some issues), running 1 gig of ram. But even then if I'm doing too much on the pc, it might give me a hiccup. I like having customer screens specific for them, and I make those a mp3+g file that plays in winamp too. HOWEVER, creating them while other songs are playing might give it a hiccup. It's done it to me, and so I've learned to only do it during a video playback, or whenever a customer is walking up to grab the mic... then I can create the file with mp3toolz, and I'm all set then.

DELETING files also will cause the hiccup too, so don't do that until the end of the night.

Winamp w/AutoKDJ

I got the info from hoster's songbookcreator Chip STaley on another forum.

It's my understanding that Chip no longer handles the Database for MTU. I will contact him regarding this issue. I'm on the Beta team for MTU and this would normally become common knowlege to those in that forum before it would be available to others outside. I know that Chip is no longer a part of the beta team and has not been for some time now.

I will research this and repost with my findings. If I'm wrong about this I will post a retraction on that subject.

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Scott

this is a snippit from him that includes a snippit of a post from MTU's forum.
"Posted on the "Support Forum" by the Admin just TODAY: And of course when a customer complained about resetting a registration code:
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We have been working for over a year on a new TRANSFER method to allow users to do what we do to install on new or significantly upgraded hardware, but with web side scripts doing the checking and theft prevention we now do manually. This will require Hoster to "ET Call Home = ETCH" every 3 months. If not, that copy will cease to run. It can be done on-line, using a USB Memory Stick, or a Floppy Disc. We will make it as painless as possible, but it will require connectino within 3 months, or when you want to run it again if idle for an exetnded period.  "

I found the post he copied this from.
The heading is :Hoster Registration Problem with 3303
I am now willing to admit it sounds more like venting after having to deal with the umpteenth registration issue of the day and not like something they were really gonna do so I retract my negative comments on this subject. Taken out of context as Chip did, It's no wonder One can jump to the conlusion I did without reading the whole post and what surrounded it. I am glad I went back to read the whole thread and am able to admit that yeah I am wrong here.  It would be bad business to do it though when it comes to getting and keeping customers.  WHat would happen if say MTU went out of business and they had it in place?

The first quote you supplied was from: Hoster Registration Problem with 3303 I did find that one.


But Could not find the second quote in this thread but will continue looking in others.
This comment you posted may not be directly related to the 90 day registration issue but some comments posted later in the original post he made.

I know they have been beefing up security on their servers as they have had multiple problems with hackers and outright theft. Perhaps this is one of those steps. Funny that they would not post that in the beta forum.

I will investigate on my own to see if this is actually going to become a reality. I can communicate with chip via email and get his input.

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Scott

Chip isn't a good source for information on MTU.... as He has his own agenda. The call home every 3 months thing was on the second installed copy of hoster the way I understood it. You are allowed one running license. If your computer crashes, you can install a second one, but the second one has to check in every 3 months or untill the registration has been transferred. They had also kicked around unregistering the original install, but that wouldn't work if the machine had crashed.

MTU is very good about listening to the product owners, and giving them what they need. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of times they have reset the customers install so it would reinstall.

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That makes sense. MTU allows an additional install on a second  system for back up purposes. They just want to make sure that copy is not being misused on a second system for karaoke shows.


Thanks Dr D

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oops duplicate post

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Apparently that is what he got from that post.  I just misinterpretted based on his misinterpretation of his post on the DJCHAT forum. I will try be more investigative before making any more posts lik the ones that lead up to this and will refrain from bad mouthing other programs as yes people have different needs, mine just was met by a particular program.  Never meant to seem like I was advertising but that seems to be how it was taken and I apologize for sounding like that.

I understand where you are coming from Danny...I too, am very happy with my current program and I have in the past posted regularly touting the benefits of it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Now I'm really more interested in helping others make the transition to computer regardless of what they purchase. I will give them my manufacturers info and they can do the research from there. That is what is great about the demos they can make decisions for themselves based upon actual useage.

There use to be very few choices with regards to hosting software now there are a bunch. I think we can all help the newbie's better if we post our findings and personal experiences with the software of our choice and leave it at that.

Thank you for your most recent post

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I tested anothe software clubdj Pro and like it but am unwilling to shell out the money for it untill it comes up with rotation capability, all of which Sax& Dotty, compuhost, Roxbox, Swift Elite, Sacks & Nuts & Hoster has. Unsure about PCDJ as I only saw the singer's output but al the rest have some form of being able to see at a glnce who is singing what.

club DJ pro is not designed to be a karaoke hoster and really isn't designed for karaoke in general, it just happens to play mp3+g files... for KJ's who are capable of handling rotation, without a software program doing it for them, this is a very nice piece of software... it is meant to be a player only... that is why it is called club DJ pro and not club KJ pro...

But one can suggest it to them right? Which I  recently did.

why ruin a perfectly good piece of software???

I guess you and I are just going to disagree with each other as I see it as an improvement. But if they don't I have another means of getting the look I want out of my player-skin it.

I like MTU hoster, and over the years, I've seen it used by two local KJs. For a ripping solution and then a playing one, it's great.

The thing I like with clubdjpro is it's a professional piece of software designed solely to PLAY audio and video files. Period. You have two players, like a pro dj would use, and it fades in from one to the other either automatically, or at your request. It plays zipped files, or unzipped ones without hesitation. You have the ability to import your files into the program, or just use the tree-view as a means to get the specific file you want without having to scroll through it. Again, either way works fine depending on your specific needs. You can add the files as needed to the right queue area, or just put them up as needed into the players. There are many options.

I handle my rotation with the slips or sheet in front of me. I agree with Tig that ithe program is absolutely perfect for what it's intended for. Adding a rotation to it would muck it up too much.

For home use, you can continue using it as a demo. You have to restart it every 25 minutes, but geez, what's the big deal with that?

Now I use windows media player for my mpg and avi files, and winamp for my cdg files. If I need them unzipped, I can do that on the fly. Works fine for me, and I'm very happy with it. I'll admit that the aspects of clubdjpro work wonders, and I'm beta testing it to see if I can find any flaws. As of right now, I haven't, and their tech support for any issues has been great (one time I couldn't see the fonts, another the preview windows weren't working right.)

 Well I use Swift Elite but not over fond of it. Can't delete one song only all (Karaoke or music) The next singer cannot see what they will be singing without switching off the music!
Surely there must be a better one than this?
Eileen

1:yeah but I want to move to the age of being a little more eco friendly by eliminating any paper. Already working on getting rid of slips and songlists made of paper- why would I want to back track and keep my rotation on paper. Save the trees man.
2:what would muck it up? you already have a playlist for your song that holds the dj and karaoke.  When you have the search set for karaoke why can't they make a box pop up to enter the singer's name and when the song appears in the playlist replace the original artist's name with the person's name that is singing the song. That's all I'm asking for. The playlist box area is already there. Make better use of it.