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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:42 pm |
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I'd respond to tig's last reply but his taking things at what only his brain can understand limits the worth of doing so.
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Tigrr27
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:06 pm |
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hey I wonder if Roxbox can help me... what do you think danny...
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karyoker
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:29 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:43 pm Posts: 6784 Location: Fort Collins Colorado USA Been Liked: 5 times
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Another highly informative and professioonal thread .. Any newbie can read this and have an idea what software to try
I do have a few questions Is there any contributers to this thread that doesnt have an ego problem? Is there any contributers that dont have an axe to grind, wondering what the hell is goin on, actually run KJ gigs, (if you do I hope you have a host working for you I wouldnt come to your shows with your attitude
This forum is a joke...
I am a Roxbox rep but this one of the last forums I would promote it on I only contribute to forums that even imitate the pros. If you doubt it google roxbox or roxbox manual...Any professional contribution to this forum is either mis-understood or challengened by amatuer guesses or by trolls..
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:42 pm |
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karyoker @ Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:29 pm wrote: Another highly informative and professioonal thread .. Any newbie can read this and have an idea what software to try
I do have a few questions Is there any contributers to this thread that doesnt have an ego problem? Is there any contributers that dont have an axe to grind, wondering what the hell is goin on, actually run KJ gigs, (if you do I hope you have a host working for you I wouldnt come to your shows with your attitude
This forum is a joke... I am a Roxbox rep but this one of the last forums I would promote it on I only contribute to forums that even imitate the pros. If you doubt it google roxbox or roxbox manual...Any professional contribution to this forum is either mis-understood or challengened by amatuer guesses or by trolls..
while I might seem to show an attitude, I leave mine at home when I am running shows. Other than the attitude that I'm gonna run a fair rotation. It's my calling card.
But I can see what you're getting at as this is the first forum aside from Jolt that I actually have been attacked for how I feel about software titles I have either owned or tried the demos of to decide which works for me. I am naive to think that the simpler you make a show to run the better it runs and the more professional you look, which is why I made my comments on CLub DJ Pro. As Flipper says all software has it's positives and negatives but my issue with not mentioning possible flaws of a program fails the person who wants to know about each program. So while to some it may seem i am insulting some programs, I'm just letting the potential users know some of the flaws in the various software. I'd like to say that RoxBox doesn't have flaws but it does. 1: it relies on winamp's pacemaker plugin for it's keychanger (that will change as soon as KJAMP is released). 2. again being reliant on winamp effects multiplex as I have yet to figure out how to get songs like the ones on my nutech discs to only play in stereo the nonvocal versions. even playing the left side just leaves the right speaker with dead air except for the person trying to sing (customer's only complaint to me when I tried using the buttons on roxbox to control winamps stereo). The only way I get what I want is having the mixer I use which has a multiplex button. I'd rather deal with the customer themselves than have to worry about who's next and what songs they are singing.
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karyoker
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:28 pm |
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Danny youn and I know each other on the roxbox and pro forums. This forum is run by a clique and not moderators....They have their own agenda and through their enemic egos try to justify their life.. I hope they have somebody representing them in real life and at their shows cuz Ill tell what they got a personallity of a worm and public relation abilites amounting to zero. If They have a show I wont go to it. If You Cant Present Youtrself In A Fantasy World Such As A Forum), I doubt Very Seriously If You Cant Present Yourself in real Life. As an engineer I am long since tired of the so-called tech support on this forum and this thread is common for this forum
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:16 pm |
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DannyG2006 @ Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:42 pm wrote: karyoker @ Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:29 pm wrote: Another highly informative and professioonal thread .. Any newbie can read this and have an idea what software to try
I do have a few questions Is there any contributers to this thread that doesnt have an ego problem? Is there any contributers that dont have an axe to grind, wondering what the hell is goin on, actually run KJ gigs, (if you do I hope you have a host working for you I wouldnt come to your shows with your attitude
This forum is a joke... I am a Roxbox rep but this one of the last forums I would promote it on I only contribute to forums that even imitate the pros. If you doubt it google roxbox or roxbox manual...Any professional contribution to this forum is either mis-understood or challengened by amatuer guesses or by trolls.. while I might seem to show an attitude, I leave mine at home when I am running shows. Other than the attitude that I'm gonna run a fair rotation. It's my calling card. But I can see what you're getting at as this is the first forum aside from Jolt that I actually have been attacked for how I feel about software titles I have either owned or tried the demos of to decide which works for me. I am naive to think that the simpler you make a show to run the better it runs and the more professional you look, which is why I made my comments on CLub DJ Pro. As Flipper says all software has it's positives and negatives but my issue with not mentioning possible flaws of a program fails the person who wants to know about each program. So while to some it may seem i am insulting some programs, I'm just letting the potential users know some of the flaws in the various software. I'd like to say that RoxBox doesn't have flaws but it does. 1: it relies on winamp's pacemaker plugin for it's keychanger (that will change as soon as KJAMP is released). 2. again being reliant on winamp effects multiplex as I have yet to figure out how to get songs like the ones on my nutech discs to only play in stereo the nonvocal versions. even playing the left side just leaves the right speaker with dead air except for the person trying to sing (customer's only complaint to me when I tried using the buttons on roxbox to control winamps stereo). The only way I get what I want is having the mixer I use which has a multiplex button. I'd rather deal with the customer themselves than have to worry about who's next and what songs they are singing.
Nows my turn to poke fun at myself:
while rereading the above post it seems i failed to mention one flaw in roxbox itself but only the flaws of winamp. .
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knightshow
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:21 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:40 am Posts: 7468 Location: Kansas City, MO Been Liked: 1 time
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Danny, I didn't flame you... I disagreed with you.
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:23 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:31 am Posts: 5408 Location: Watebrury, CT Been Liked: 409 times
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karyoker @ Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:28 am wrote: Danny youn and I know each other on the roxbox and pro forums. This forum is run by a clique and not moderators....They have their own agenda and through their enemic egos try to justify their life.. I hope they have somebody representing them in real life and at their shows cuz Ill tell what they got a personallity of a worm and public relation abilites amounting to zero. If They have a show I wont go to it. If You Cant Present Youtrself In A Fantasy World Such As A Forum), I doubt Very Seriously If You Cant Present Yourself in real Life. As an engineer I am long since tired of the so-called tech support on this forum and this thread is common for this forum
I hear you and you know what I don't need this forum so poof I'm no longer gonna post as i have no use for cliques. It is sad though that the biggest complainers don't see hosting programs for what they are: Tools to make their lifes easier so they can better interact with their customers. I remember the old days of having to keep a rotation down by holding onto the slips in my hand so they didn't get messed up, having to take time not only to call the next person up but to put the disc back in it's proper place so i can find it the next time i needed it, load the player with the next disc etc. etc. etc.. Now I can actually talk with a customer about how their day went, make suggestions as to what songthey might wanna try next if they are feeling adventurous and the like. Life is so much easier with the new technology that is out there. but they can't see that because they are stuck in the same spot Record dj's were when CD based dj systems came out.
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:26 pm |
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knightshow @ Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:21 am wrote: Danny, I didn't flame you... I disagreed with you.
Okay I apologize to you anyway. while others may have read a previous post I edited it to remove something out it because you showed more professionalism than tig.
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:39 pm |
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Tigrr27 @ Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:06 pm wrote: hey I wonder if Roxbox can help me... what do you think danny...
Only if you want to run a more professional show using modern tools to make your life easier, but you can do that with Hoster, Sac-o-nuts, Compuhost, PCDJ Kj, SAx & Dotties, Swit ELite (which while loading the demo of it messed with my video drivers on my show computer by the way- willing to think it's a one time occurance as I probably won't use it, even though it comes the closest to club dj pro with the featu4re i wanted). I almost forgot that expensive program karaoke Go-Round from the makers of MP3+G ToolZ also has rotation built into their software.
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Tigrr27
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:43 pm |
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to fix the problem of the key and tempo changers being opposite of what you would expect (up goes down in key and down goes up in key etc) you can change the setting under the Preferences/General Options tab. Once on the General Options page just click the "Invert Pitch/Tempo sliders and it will change the sliders so that if you slide them up - goes faster and slide down- lowers speed/key etc...
The new features being worked on for the MobileDJ Pro 1.05 update are listed as follows:
* Treeview record case or media list feature so you can see your media as it appears on your hard disk
* Fast/Smooth Video Transitions
* Ability to enter karaoke singers names
* Request list feature that doesn't interfere with playlist
* Ability to set cuepoints more than 30 seconds from the start or end of songs
* CD+G / CD Ripper / DVD Ripper
* Support for zipped karaoke files
* BPM, mixpoint detection, and volume normalization for video files
* Custom logo / scrolling text / and advertisement feature for dual display
* More visualizations or ambience plugins
These additions (not released yet) would fill the needs of those wanting more of a hoster type of program than what ClubDJ Pro currently offers. I look forward to the custom logo/scrolling text and advertisement feature. For mobile KJ's this seems to be a fairly good package. There are no fees for updates once ya buy the program. The user interface is similiar to the clubDJ pro interface with maybe a few more buttons for samples and other luxury options. The last update for MobileDJ Pro was June of 2005 (v1.04) so hopefully the v1.05 will be released very soon. It also has an assortment of colorful skin changes to match your moods. Check out MobileDJ Pro here :
http://www.clubdjpro.com/mobiledjpro.htm
Their forums have been unavailable to access for a while now. Will add more when I know more...
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:29 pm |
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Tigrr27 @ Tue May 02, 2006 10:43 pm wrote: to fix the problem of the key and tempo changers being opposite of what you would expect (up goes down in key and down goes up in key etc) you can change the setting under the Preferences/General Options tab. Once on the General Options page just click the "Invert Pitch/Tempo sliders and it will change the sliders so that if you slide them up - goes faster and slide down- lowers speed/key etc... The new features being worked on for the MobileDJ Pro 1.05 update are listed as follows: * Treeview record case or media list feature so you can see your media as it appears on your hard disk * Fast/Smooth Video Transitions * Ability to enter karaoke singers names * Request list feature that doesn't interfere with playlist * Ability to set cuepoints more than 30 seconds from the start or end of songs * CD+G / CD Ripper / DVD Ripper * Support for zipped karaoke files * BPM, mixpoint detection, and volume normalization for video files * Custom logo / scrolling text / and advertisement feature for dual display * More visualizations or ambience plugins These additions (not released yet) would fill the needs of those wanting more of a hoster type of program than what ClubDJ Pro currently offers. I look forward to the custom logo/scrolling text and advertisement feature. For mobile KJ's this seems to be a fairly good package. There are no fees for updates once ya buy the program. The user interface is similiar to the clubDJ pro interface with maybe a few more buttons for samples and other luxury options. The last update for MobileDJ Pro was June of 2005 (v1.04) so hopefully the v1.05 will be released very soon. It also has an assortment of colorful skin changes to match your moods. Check out MobileDJ Pro here : http://www.clubdjpro.com/mobiledjpro.htmTheir forums have been unavailable to access for a while now. Will add more when I know more... Tig
So I guess they heard me anyway. just chose to put it in a product that I didn't understand why they offered it because testing all three the only diference I saw in mobile was lack of being able to work with zipped files. Otherwise it's the same as Clubdj Pro. I can accept this.
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Tigrr27
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:05 pm |
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well they released the v1.05 update details in June of last year but have yet to release the MobileDJ Pro 1.05. At this point it looks good on paper but with no working update. I would think that if they offered a couple of those features in the mobile version that they would also release those features in the club pro version too... no idea what the hold up is though since it has been a year since they announced those updates in the next version... have to watch for the next releases of both to see...
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knightshow
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:51 am |
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Danny, I don't know if your here or not, but I'll address your post about hosters and personal preferences.
Again, I wasn't flaming you. Sorry that you felt a second opinion that disagreed with you was flaming.
Look, your talking about the old days... it doesn't carry water. I have dealt with slips, and continue to deal with slips. Just because you choose to keep one hand on the slips doesn't mean that the rest of us don't do that. I personally weigh the slips down, and have it down to an art!
Last night, I was at a show with a huge erasure board for it's hosting. Did I agree with it? No, but I saw the merits of the system.
As for the hosting stuff, why I never went with MTU's Hoster is because it's more complex of a program than I PERSONALLY want. I don't NEED a computer to help me with rotation. So my needs are different than yours and I will buy a program that ANSWERS those needs.
Tig's assessment of the new updates addresses not your requests, but probably many other folks' requests. I have to trouble with that. The version I use is 1.3, and I'm happy with it. I've been in contact with the tech guy about a video issue I've had, and he referred me to a lesser version.
So depending on the version you get, you can have the options you want.
Sounds like a win-win issue with this program!
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twansenne
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:08 pm |
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Funny, very funny....A theread I started, and I am not even in the argement... I must be slipping.
Anywho, don't ya just love it when some posts a LARGE PIC and it screws up the margins. Gosh I hate scrolling Left & Right.
Bt on a serios note...need to create a thread and sticky it to the top of all options of software that is out there for PC hosting.
and on another note, my damn U key is screwed up, so bear with me.
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:58 pm |
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DannyG2006 @ Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:23 pm wrote: I remember the old days of having to keep a rotation down by holding onto the slips in my hand so they didn't get messed up, having to take time not only to call the next person up but to put the disc back in it's proper place so i can find it the next time i needed it, load the player with the next disc etc. etc. etc.. Now I can actually talk with a customer about how their day went, make suggestions as to what songthey might wanna try next if they are feeling adventurous and the like.
I guess I am not understanding how hard this is. I too still use slips, probably always will even when I go to computer, I just lay the slips down in the order, someone hands me one, I put it in it's spot. The way I work it, singer is up, I adjust the singer/music, I put away previous disc & pull & cue next disc. Takes maybe 10 seconds max (after singer is adjusted) - but then I use all jewel cases clearly labeled, no disc binders to search through. I get out & talk with customers all the time about whatever. Computers may aide slightly in getting organized, but ultimately it's still under the kj control.
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twansenne
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:35 pm |
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Lonman @ Wed May 03, 2006 3:58 pm wrote: I guess I am not understanding how hard this is. I too still use slips, probably always will even when I go to computer, I just lay the slips down in the order, someone hands me one, I put it in it's spot. The way I work it, singer is up, I adjust the singer/music, I put away previous disc & pull & cue next disc. Takes maybe 10 seconds max (after singer is adjusted) - but then I use all jewel cases clearly labeled, no disc binders to search through. I get out & talk with customers all the time about whatever. Computers may aide slightly in getting organized, but ultimately it's still under the kj control.
I'm either have MAD cow/Alzheimer's, or am way confused...Thoght you used MTU HOSTER?
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Flipper
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:36 pm |
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I think he is going to go computerized with MTU Hoster but currently runs his show with discs. Just has not finished the importing process yet.
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:55 pm |
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twansenne wrote: I'm either have MAD cow/Alzheimer's, or am way confused...Thoght you used MTU HOSTER? Confusion must be the key, I have never stated I actively USE any computer as a player in my shows at this time but have worked with the programs at home to get a feel for them & understand them. I actively work with Hoster at home, but have not jumped into the venue with it yet. Flipper @ Wed May 03, 2006 3:36 pm wrote: I think he is going to go computerized with MTU Hoster but currently runs his show with discs. Just has not finished the importing process yet.
Close, I am all ready with the imports, just waiting to get a good computer to bring in & i'm in no real hurry at this time. Yes when I go to computer I am using Hoster all the way, it suits my needs & I like the sound quality better. I have tried the others - freeware to top price & Hoster is what I prefer overall.
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